you receive what you give in life?
who told you that one?
I guess I went over you pompous head
you receive what you give in life?
who told you that one?
I guess I went over you pompous head
I guess I went over you pompous head
since it appears to have, then please enlighten me. do you believe that people who do the tight thing by others do not get rooked? sorry to burst your bubble. i can write books about guys who have come here, treated locals with great respect and deference, only to have the recipients of kindnesses crap all over them. furthermore, this happens the world over. there is no guarantee that people who do the right thing will have it done to them in return. that is a myth which does not stand up to scrutiny.
Glad I don't live on your world
Thats my problem with this site. Way too many jaded miserable people posting their crapsince it appears to have, then please enlighten me. do you believe that people who do the tight thing by others do not get rooked? sorry to burst your bubble. i can write books about guys who have come here, treated locals with great respect and deference, only to have the recipients of kindnesses crap all over them. furthermore, this happens the world over. there is no guarantee that people who do the right thing will have it done to them in return. that is a myth which does not stand up to scrutiny.
Thats my problem with this site. Way too many jaded miserable people posting their crap
I call it the way i see it. Take it or leave it.and you call me pompous? you see things one way, i see them another, and your approach is to start up with the ad hominems and vitriol. i never at one moment attempted to insult you, but you have gone on a full blown rant.
remember your bromide; you get what you give. maybe you should measure that against the way you elect to be abrasive to other people.
Take your bickering to PM, it doesn't belong here.
Sorry just stating facts. Some people cant handle reality.
Already did sweetheart.
Decided to start a thread out of this, a reply on another thread.
Many state that there is no logic in the RD, but I believe there is logic in what Dominicans do and after I understood this, I understood much of the actions committed by Dominicans. I have actually brought up my theory to Dominicans and they have all verified that it is the way they think. Very simply, Dominicans do not believe in win-win situations. They believe there must be a winner and a loser in every interaction, be it a business transaction or personal relationship (BTW, it is best not to differentiate the 2 as personal relationships especially with the opposite sex are usually seen as business deals, and Dominican business deals which mean making sure you are the loser).
If you wonder why a worker will rip you off 500 pesos one week and not do the work, forcing you to fire them, rather than earning maybe 500 pesos a week for years to come for just doing work that they have plenty of time to do and are capable of doing, this is why. If they are up 500 pesos, and you are out 500 pesos without the work being done, then they are clearly the winner and you are the loser. If they did the work and saw you were happy, they would think that they were the loser since you were acting like the winner and happy. No sense of value for value, everything is a winner and a loser. When I tried to explain that there could be win-win situations, Dominicans (and supposedly business minded Dominicans - I know that is impossible) would explain to me that by definition there cannot be 2 winners. I said what if we both made money, wouldn't that make it a win-win, and got a response of "sure you make a million and the other makes 1000 pesos".
People describe portions of this in different ways, like it is a sport for Dominicans to rip you off, or complaining that their logic does not make any sense, but if you understand that the viewpoint is just to make sure that you are a loser in the interaction and hence they would be the winner, things actually do start to make sense and there is logic behind the actions. As long as you are miserable at the end of the interaction, they feel rewarded as they won.
Now is this truly the stress free environment one first thinks it is? I found that it became very stressful as nothing would get done and you could never plan on anything getting done in any time-frame. So I guess you have to choose whether to become totally useless and not get anything done and accept it with a smile on your face - and have the great attitude of this productive society - or not and be stressed out and annoyed. If it is the latter, than it is time to leave. If it is the former, than you probably can't make it anywhere else anyway, and you fit in.
I am trying to get into the philosophy of the mentality and why this occurs. Why lose a customer over 15 pesos. It is because they want the win and you to lose. It fits.
For those so integrated into society and thinking that there are more consequences cheating them than a gringo on his own.... if you only knew how much they screwed each other over - and they don't seem to care about those consequences.
The dominican philosophy that strikes me the most is the lack of "grudge".
They can be at each others throats, real nasty, today. And tomorrow or the day after they are back on civil terms. I even see it in my wife.
As opposed to me........I'll hold a grudge as long as it is needed. I'll get back to you in a day, a month, a year...... I wont forget.
Is it a good thing ?? Or bad ?? Each is his own judge.
Decided to start a thread out of this, a reply on another thread.
Many state that there is no logic in the RD, but I believe there is logic in what Dominicans do and after I understood this, I understood much of the actions committed by Dominicans. I have actually brought up my theory to Dominicans and they have all verified that it is the way they think. Very simply, Dominicans do not believe in win-win situations. They believe there must be a winner and a loser in every interaction, be it a business transaction or personal relationship (BTW, it is best not to differentiate the 2 as personal relationships especially with the opposite sex are usually seen as business deals, and Dominican business deals which mean making sure you are the loser).