Even the list of overstay fees posted by Migracion has the words under it that paying the over stay fee does not make your stay legal.
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Sounds exotic, I agree Fulano, but you are either here by naturalization, residency, tourist no visa, tourist visa (do you still need these like if you come from Venezuela?), work permit, other special permit like covid-health-worker i think or you are illegal. Tourist no visa ends at 30 days. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. I could be wrong though I only went to state school
Tarjeta de Turismo: Autorización que permite a un extranjero ingresar al país sin visa, que puede adquirirse en el extranjero, o en los Aeropuertos dominicanos, de acuerdo a los dispuesto por la Ley No. 199, Sobre Uso de Tarjetas de Turismo, del 9 de mayo del año 1966, publicada en la Gaceta Oficial No. 8984
The law regarding the tourist card is No 199 mentioned above:
Here is that law ( please note there is no mention of overstay fees) :
Here is where overstay fees are mentioned and then the link provided which states:
This payment does not imply an extension that authorizes the foreign national to remain in the country.
https://dgii.gov.do/sobreTarjetaTurista/Otros documentos/Requisitos-para-estadia-o-prorroga-de-permanencia.pdf?csf=1&e=z6ectd
Note this on the schedule of fees for overstays:
Este pago no supone una prorroga que autorice al nacional extranjero a permanecer en el país.
This payment does not imply an extension that authorizes the foreign national to remain in the country.
Hint for those that have poor comprehension: The payment of a fee to extend a tourist card does not authorize a foreign national to remain in the country, because that fee is not part of DR immigration law.
The law regarding the tourist card is No 199 mentioned above:
Here is that law ( please note there is no mention of overstay fees) :
Here is where overstay fees are mentioned and then the link provided which states:
This payment does not imply an extension that authorizes the foreign national to remain in the country.
https://dgii.gov.do/sobreTarjetaTurista/Otros documentos/Requisitos-para-estadia-o-prorroga-de-permanencia.pdf?csf=1&e=z6ectd
Note this on the schedule of fees for overstays:
Este pago no supone una prorroga que autorice al nacional extranjero a permanecer en el país.
This payment does not imply an extension that authorizes the foreign national to remain in the country.
Hint for those that have poor comprehension: The payment of a fee to extend a tourist card does not authorize a foreign national to remain in the country, because that fee is not part of DR immigration law.
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Art. 5.- Se fija en 15 días el tiempo que un turista puede permanecer en el país cuando haya ingresado con esta tarjeta.
Art. 6.- La tarjeta de turismo podrá adquirirse en los consulados dominicanos, en las agencias navieras o aéreas representadas en el país, o en las empresas o
agencias de viajes e instituciones turísticas reconocidas en la República, al precio de RD$2.00 cada una.
Excellent, I was hoping someone would read the law and see just that. It is yet another way the PLD ignored the actual law.
I could not find a revision to that law for some reason that shows 30 days. The one that has 15 days and $10 for a tourist card is only one I can find.
It could be it is just another way the PLD paid no attention to the actual law for the past 16 years.
I know Mangú, the ley has to be reviewed and adapted imho. They never thought well about the consequences of their rules. This is just a moneymaker for them.
Note that these appear to be Regulations and NOT Laws which could provide some insight as to how 15 days becomes up to 60 days when you request an extension to a 30 day tourist card. To me it looks like the PLD just made up the times (30 and 60 days) as they saw fit without paying attention to the actual immigration laws (which had 15 days ) posted already in this thread.
ARTÍCULO 81.- Los requisitos exigidos para la permanencia de los Extranjeros No Residentes en territorio nacional serán los siguientes: a. Turista. El Extranjero que ingrese en calidad de Turista estará provisto de Visa de Turista o de una Tarjeta de Turismo. La Visa de Turista es emitida por la misión consular de la República en el exterior, de acuerdo a las disposiciones de la Ley Sobre Visados No. 875, del 31 de julio de 1978, y por el Manual de Normas y Practicas Consulares adoptadas por el Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores. La Tarjeta de Turismo puede ser adquirida de acuerdo con las disposiciones de la Ley que rige la materia. La permanencia máxima del Turista extranjero en la República Dominicana, es de sesenta (60) días. Para ingresar y permanecer en el país el Turista debe cumplir con los siguientes requisitos: 1. Pasaporte con vigencia mínima de seis (6) meses. 2. Boleto aéreo, marítimo o terrestre de ingreso y regreso; 3. Una dirección en la República Dominicana; y 4. Prueba de solvencia económica suficiente para cubrir sus gastos durante su estancia en la República Dominicana.
ARTICLE 81.- The requirements for the permanence of Non-Resident Foreigners in national territory will be the following: a. Tourist. The Foreigner who enters as a Tourist will be provided with a Tourist Visa or a Tourist Card. The Tourist Visa is issued by the consular mission of the Republic abroad, in accordance with the provisions of the Visa Law No. 875, of July 31, 1978, and by the Manual of Consular Standards and Practices adopted by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Tourist Card can be acquired in accordance with the provisions of the Law that governs the matter. The maximum stay of the foreign tourist in the Dominican Republic is sixty (60) days. To enter and stay in the country, the Tourist must meet the following requirements: 1. Passport valid for at least six (6) months. 2. Air, sea or land entry and return ticket; 3. An address in the Dominican Republic; and 4. Proof of sufficient financial solvency to cover your expenses during your stay in the Dominican Republic.
ARTÍCULO 81.- Los requisitos exigidos para la permanencia de los Extranjeros No Residentes en territorio nacional serán los siguientes: a. Turista. El Extranjero que ingrese en calidad de Turista estará provisto de Visa de Turista o de una Tarjeta de Turismo. La Visa de Turista es emitida por la misión consular de la República en el exterior, de acuerdo a las disposiciones de la Ley Sobre Visados No. 875, del 31 de julio de 1978, y por el Manual de Normas y Practicas Consulares adoptadas por el Ministerio de Relaciones Exteriores. La Tarjeta de Turismo puede ser adquirida de acuerdo con las disposiciones de la Ley que rige la materia. La permanencia máxima del Turista extranjero en la República Dominicana, es de sesenta (60) días. Para ingresar y permanecer en el país el Turista debe cumplir con los siguientes requisitos: 1. Pasaporte con vigencia mínima de seis (6) meses. 2. Boleto aéreo, marítimo o terrestre de ingreso y regreso; 3. Una dirección en la República Dominicana; y 4. Prueba de solvencia económica suficiente para cubrir sus gastos durante su estancia en la República Dominicana.
ARTICLE 81.- The requirements for the permanence of Non-Resident Foreigners in national territory will be the following: a. Tourist. The Foreigner who enters as a Tourist will be provided with a Tourist Visa or a Tourist Card. The Tourist Visa is issued by the consular mission of the Republic abroad, in accordance with the provisions of the Visa Law No. 875, of July 31, 1978, and by the Manual of Consular Standards and Practices adopted by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Tourist Card can be acquired in accordance with the provisions of the Law that governs the matter. The maximum stay of the foreign tourist in the Dominican Republic is sixty (60) days. To enter and stay in the country, the Tourist must meet the following requirements: 1. Passport valid for at least six (6) months. 2. Air, sea or land entry and return ticket; 3. An address in the Dominican Republic; and 4. Proof of sufficient financial solvency to cover your expenses during your stay in the Dominican Republic.
There is no mention in the law pursuant to the overstay fee when you exit either.
Again, a parallel law with printed overstay fees PUBLISHED BY THE GOVERNMENT and displayed at all of the airports.
COMPLETELY LEGAL.
Winde, you can print and dissect the laws until you are blue in the face.
It does not change the fact that if a visa is overstayed all that is required is a payment based on a schedule published by the government.
Until that ceases to exist you are wasting your Winde🤣
paying the fee doesn't make you legal. No matter how many caps you use, no matter how angry with your life situation you are. You can get help today!
Paying the overstay fee does make one legal. The second you exit the country and return with another tourist card you are technically legal for another 30 days. You don't reenter the country as an illegal. Thats absurd reasoning by some here. Immigration does have the right to deny your entry but does that happen to noncriminals from the 1st world? I have never heard of it happening to anyone.
In short, yes.
But the situation at hand between the two nations is far from short. As a foreigner, albeit with purchased residency, I would not expect you nor many to understand this in it's full scope.
Yet.....
Like a traffic or any violation..... payment of the fine eliminates the charge against you
but it stays on your record..... still a scofflaw
The new sheriff may clarify this next week
I have a hunch the noose will tighten
Violators will be identified - warned- and ultimately punished for breaking the law too frequently
What is needed is a new plan - buying your 'days' in advance... 1-2-3 months and so on
As for the gov't having too many fish to fry next week -
all dept's have new chiefs
certainly plans have been/are being made as we type
Not hard to go forward on a few fronts from the outset...
It has been made clear -- by public announcement
CV19 is a priority --- so is immigration
Yes so you are legal when you pay. Do you pay in advance? No. So you are illegal untill you pay. Al salir ....
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