Next minister of Interior & Police says government will apply the law

[Andre14615]

The staying extension website is old news. Has been in place since February.

Was posted on the Migration website back on Aug 4, 2020.

Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists. - DIRECCIÓN GENERAL DE MIGRACIÓN

PRESS RELEASE Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists The General Directorate of Migration (DGM ), in an effort to improve the services it offers to its users, provided, starting in February, the facility to request online the extension of stay for foreign...

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Directly from the website:

The DGM clarifies that the extension of stay DOES NOT exempt the foreigner from paying for the time exceeded in national territory as established by law upon leaving the country.

Sounds like now they get to double dip. 🤣

Pay to extend your stay AND you still have to pay the exit fee.

So whats the purpose of the paying the staying extension ? NADA!!!

Once again everything is clear as mud and nothing will change.

With 85% of tourist coming from USA and Tourism down over 88% percent.

Nobody is going to kill that golden goose that is the "overstay fees"

Like every embassy in world says even the DR embassy.

"Just pay the overstay fees and move along, nothing to see here."

So the overstay fees is apart of actual law. We have 20 pages of people claiming it wasn't and how Abinader were going to crush us and then ship us back to our countries. Lol these guys are hilarious and always wrong.

 

[Andre14615]

Its not two different payments, it's always the overstaying fee that you are paying. And I agree, for now it is the same.

Thats reads like it's two different payments. It also has two different dates which is also confusing. But confusing is the Dominican way when it comes to their government.

 

[ramesses]

The staying extension website is old news. Has been in place since February.

Was posted on the Migration website back on Aug 4, 2020.

Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists. - DIRECCIÓN GENERAL DE MIGRACIÓN

PRESS RELEASE Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists The General Directorate of Migration (DGM ), in an effort to improve the services it offers to its users, provided, starting in February, the facility to request online the extension of stay for foreign...

migracion.gob.do

Directly from the website:

The DGM clarifies that the extension of stay DOES NOT exempt the foreigner from paying for the time exceeded in national territory as established by law upon leaving the country.

Sounds like now they get to double dip. 🤣

Pay to extend your stay AND you still have to pay the exit fee.

So whats the purpose of the paying the staying extension ? NADA!!!

Once again everything is clear as mud and nothing will change.

With 85% of tourist coming from USA and Tourism down over 88% percent.

Nobody is going to kill that golden goose that is the "overstay fees"

Like every embassy in world says even the DR embassy.

"Just pay the overstay fees and move along, nothing to see here."

There will be plenty of people staying past 120 days(or 90 days).....I read this as referring to those people.

 

[SNH]

Its not two different payments, it's always the overstaying fee that you are paying. And I agree, for now it is the same.

It is two different fees. It says clearly this "The DGM clarifies that the extension of stay DOES NOT exempt the foreigner from paying for the time exceeded in national territory as established by law upon leaving the country."

So after paying the the extension fee it DOES NOT exempt you from still having to pay overstay fees.

I only had one cup of coffee today so maybe I'm slow. But it sounds like TWO separate fees to me.

 

[SNH]

Thats reads like it's two different payments. It also has two different dates which is also confusing. But confusing is the Dominican way when it comes to their government.

I agree it's as clear as mud, as usual. lol

 

[Andre14615]

I agree it's as clear as mud, as usual. lol

Yeah it reads that way but they always make so many errors when publishing something new. For example that link was filled with spelling errors. I dont see anyone paying that fee twice. Theyll just pay the overstay fee and leave.

 

[Dawiky502]

I know it may sound/reads like that but it's not, you don't have to pay it online and have it approved and then just pay your overstay fee when you leave. I personally did an extension in May and I called the DGM about it. They were very clear you only pay ONE time, either online or when you leave. It is the overstay fee you are paying, you do not pay for the extension. It even states it in the webpage the service is for free. You can call the DGM if you want, no need to believe me , I am native spanish speaker btw...

Now the problem is let's say you do an extension for 120 days and you paid online and for some reason you stay beyond the 120 days. You would then have to go to the airport and tell them you already paid for 120 days, they should only charge you for the extra days you stayed...good luck with that.

 

[RDKNIGHT]

Common sense here folks the tourist industry is bleeding out you really think the new government is going to stop the overstay process.......only thing I will said if you are overstaying they will make it easier for you.... ITS COMMON SENSE.... now stop beating this horse to death......

 

[MikeFisher]

why above complicating process debate?
the site, in English, is easy to read and does not mention any of above written "double paying fees" or such thing.
it shows in short easy words:
extention of the tourist card for 30-90 days, 2.500.-Pesos
extention 90-120 days, 4.000.- Pesos
zero mentioning of paying any overstay fee again up on departure.
THIS IS the overstay fee, but paid before your first 30 days expired, before your Immigrations Status would turn to illegal.
so the advantage is that you stay a legal Immigrant/Tourist for all the time frame of your stay, no expiring of a med insurance due illegality, no hassle to py any fee at the airport when leaving etc etc.
whats the fuss all about?
such thing could not be managed more easy and more clear, and it is not in Spanish, but in English, the language most visitors are capable to understand.

STAYING EXTENSION - DIRECCIÓN GENERAL DE MIGRACIÓN

Authorize foreigners interested in prolonging their stay in the Dominican Republic for more than 30, through an extension that can be extended up to 120 days.

migracion.gob.do

 

[MikeFisher]

I know it may sound/reads like that but it's not, you don't have to pay it online and have it approved and then just pay your overstay fee when you leave. I personally did an extension in May and I called the DGM about it. They were very clear you only pay ONE time, either online or when you leave. It is the overstay fee you are paying, you do not pay for the extension. It even states it in the webpage the service is for free. You can call the DGM if you want, no need to believe me , I am native spanish speaker btw...

Now the problem is let's say you do an extension for 120 days and you paid online and for some reason you stay beyond the 120 days. You would then have to go to the airport and tell them you already paid for 120 days, they should only charge you for the extra days you stayed...good luck with that.

if you overstay the paid for time frame, then you pay the overstay fee for the Whole time frame of yoru stay.
like it was with the 30 days. you stayed 31 days or 84 days, up to 90 days total(Including the 30 days allowed by your tourist card), you paid the fee for up to 90 days, 2.500.- Pesos.
Once you overstay, even by just 1 day, you pay the fine on the listing for the whole number of days of your stay(Including the allowed 30 days or extended 90/120 days total).
The DR Immigration Law/Rules do actually not allow a leisure travel/Tourist stay of more than 4 months/120 days, plain and simple.
for longer stays you would need to apply for a certain Visa or Residency, Prior to travel, with the nearest DR Embassy in your home country.

 

[Andre14615]

why above complicating process debate?
the site, in English, is easy to read and does not mention any of above written "double paying fees" or such thing.
it shows in short easy words:
extention of the tourist card for 30-90 days, 2.500.-Pesos
extention 90-120 days, 4.000.- Pesos
zero mentioning of paying any overstay fee again up on departure.
THIS IS the overstay fee, but paid before your first 30 days expired, before your Immigrations Status would turn to illegal.
so the advantage is that you stay a legal Immigrant/Tourist for all the time frame of your stay, no expiring of a med insurance due illegality, no hassle to py any fee at the airport when leaving etc etc.
whats the fuss all about?
such thing could not be managed more easy and more clear, and it is not in Spanish, but in English, the language most visitors are capable to understand.

STAYING EXTENSION - DIRECCIÓN GENERAL DE MIGRACIÓN

Authorize foreigners interested in prolonging their stay in the Dominican Republic for more than 30, through an extension that can be extended up to 120 days.

migracion.gob.do

This is the link that caused confusion.

Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists. - DIRECCIÓN GENERAL DE MIGRACIÓN

PRESS RELEASE Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists The General Directorate of Migration (DGM ), in an effort to improve the services it offers to its users, provided, starting in February, the facility to request online the extension of stay for foreign...

migracion.gob.do

 

[MikeFisher]

This is the link that caused confusion.

Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists. - DIRECCIÓN GENERAL DE MIGRACIÓN

PRESS RELEASE Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists The General Directorate of Migration (DGM ), in an effort to improve the services it offers to its users, provided, starting in February, the facility to request online the extension of stay for foreign...

migracion.gob.do

I see.
but thats an old article Pre-Covid, lol.
not written in the easiest to understand words, agreed.
I still would have interpret it the same, you pay for your ectention, but that does not stop you to get fined if you again overstay your allowed time in the DR Territory, means over the extended time frame.
same thing, but a yes, a hard read.
I found my above shown link by simply going to the website of Migration, there to the section extentions ....

 

[Andre14615]

I see.
but thats an old article Pre-Covid, lol.
not written in the easiest to understand words, agreed.
I still would have interpret it the same, you pay for your ectention, but that does not stop you to get fined if you again overstay your allowed time in the DR Territory, means over the extended time frame.
same thing, but a yes, a hard read.
I found my above shown link by simply going to the website of Migration, there to the section extentions ....

Yeah that's why it was so confusing because the article was updated in August but they also have the old article date on there as well. But I agree with you

 

[SNH]

Bottom line - New website, New Wording, New President. = Nothing has changed.

Extension or no extension, the overstay fee is not going anywhere.

30 pages about nothing. Yearly threads about the same thing through multiple presidents and different parties. Nothing has changed.

Will things change one day...sure maybe kinda. But today is not that day and probably not tomorrow either.

Next!

 

[william webster]

The staying extension website is old news. Has been in place since February.

Was posted on the Migration website back on Aug 4, 2020.

Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists. - DIRECCIÓN GENERAL DE MIGRACIÓN

PRESS RELEASE Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists The General Directorate of Migration (DGM ), in an effort to improve the services it offers to its users, provided, starting in February, the facility to request online the extension of stay for foreign...

migracion.gob.do

Directly from the website:

The DGM clarifies that the extension of stay DOES NOT exempt the foreigner from paying for the time exceeded in national territory as established by law upon leaving the country.

Sounds like now they get to double dip. 🤣

Pay to extend your stay AND you still have to pay the exit fee.

So whats the purpose of the paying the staying extension ? NADA!!!

Once again everything is clear as mud and nothing will change.

With 85% of tourist coming from USA and Tourism down over 88% percent.

Nobody is going to kill that golden goose that is the "overstay fees"

Like every embassy in world says even the DR embassy.

"Just pay the overstay fees and move along, nothing to see here."

If you overstay your extension... you pay again..
That's how I read it....buy 120 days... stay 140.... pay something

Notice - you need to show a return ticket....

 

[windeguy]

So the overstay fees is apart of actual law. We have 20 pages of people claiming it wasn't and how Abinader were going to crush us and then ship us back to our countries. Lol these guys are hilarious and always wrong.

Wrong? Not true. The exit fees are not part of a law. Show me that law if you think it exists. It is not part of immigration law. It is part of immigration regulations that the PLD created. Not laws, regulations not based upon laws.

By the way, that web site date is August 4. The PLD was still in charge that date. The PRM just took over yesterday August 16.
So this "new" page was done by the old regime:

Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists. - DIRECCIÓN GENERAL DE MIGRACIÓN

PRESS RELEASE Migration has a new online service for an extension of stay for tourists The General Directorate of Migration (DGM ), in an effort to improve the services it offers to its users, provided, starting in February, the facility to request online the extension of stay for foreign...

migracion.gob.do

 

[Andre14615]

The exit fees are not part of a law. Show me that law if you think it exists. It is not part of immigration law. It is part of immigration regulations that the PLD created. Not laws, regulations not based upon laws.

The DGM clarifies that the extension of stay does not exempt the foreigner from paying for the time exceeded in national territory as established by law upon leaving the country.

You've been consistently wrong. Its time to admit that and move on. You can waste your time finding the law but migration clearly states there is one in place.

 

[windeguy]

You've been consistently wrong. Its time to admit that and move on. You can waste your time finding the law but migration clearly states there is one in place.

That was under the PLD - check the dates. They are wrong. There is NO LAW that has anything about exit fees. I have checked the immigration law. EXIT FEES ARE NOT THERE.

You actually think DR1's own law firm is incorrect in stating that the exit fees are not part of any law?

 

[william webster]

What will be interesting to see is how they treat those who abuse the system....

Buy 90 days - stay longer...... or those who don't buy at all, as some are intimating here
Those who say 'Nothing has changed'

Perhaps just the enforcement will be that change

 

[Andre14615]

That was under the PLD - check the dates. They are wrong. There is NO LAW that has anything about exit fees. I have checked the immigration law. EXIT FEES ARE NOT THERE.

You actually think DR1's own law firm is incorrect in stating that the exit fees are not part of any law?

Are you really saying migration is wrong ...you know the people that the lawyers get their info from. Whoa!