Airplane Crash Near Las Américas

[chrisrose97]

 

[chrisrose97]

When I first checked the Flighradar page, my first question was that as the pilot obviously first turned back to the departure airport why did they continue flying, but there's the answer... I did not know that any airport could just deny an emergency landing??? So essentially, they should be held partially responsible for this...

I supposed they declared an emergency and then Any airport should stop all operations and clear the runways immediately. If I were the pilot, I would have landed ANYWAY if there way no traffic on runway. What are the authorities going to do? Arrest me??

 

[Northern Coast Diver]

I don't remember the date, but there was a crash off of Puerto Plata that was much less than 30 years ago.

That plane went down in Feb. '96

 

[cavok]

When I first checked the Flighradar page, my first question was that as the pilot obviously first turned back to the departure airport why did they continue flying, but there's the answer... I did not know that any airport could just deny an emergency landing??? So essentially, they should be held partially responsible for this...

Since the pilot declared an emergency, he could have landed at that airport if he chose to. I doubt they were denied landing. SDQ has a much longer runway and emergency services available, so the pilot apparently considered that the safest course of action based on the situation at the time.

 

[william webster]

On my flight y'day I sat beside a former flight controller who was astounded by this story.

She said 2 things...

1/ they should have been allowed back to their airport
2/ SDQ should ave halted the takeoff plane to allow the emergency landing

Either one of those might have saved the disaster

 

[cavok]

I'm not buying the story that SDQ delayed the landing because of an aircraft on the runway. It would have only taken a minute for that plane to have taxied clear or completed it's takeoff.

I don't buy the story that they were denied landing at the departure airport either.

 

[william webster]

The reporting said so - we may never know

 

[cavok]

Aviation accident reporting by the news is notoriously inaccurate and misleading. There are tapes of all ATC transmissions as well as the cockpit voice recorder on the aircraft. It could be a long time before we know. The nature of the emergency still hasn't been released yet. As I said before, in an emergency, a pilot can land wherever he chooses - no permission needed by ATC.

 

[JD Jones]

Chewing through that overgrowth had to have been a terrifying last few moments.

 

[Sailor51]

I'm not buying the story that SDQ delayed the landing because of an aircraft on the runway. It would have only taken a minute for that plane to have taxied clear or completed it's takeoff.

I don't buy the story that they were denied landing at the departure airport either.

Absolutly, like the saying 'any port in a storm' in a life threating emergency you cannot be denied a landing. The other aircraft could easily have moved off the runway. Shame on the atc.

 

[NALs]

Aviation accident reporting by the news is notoriously inaccurate and misleading.

While true for the media, this coming mainly from people in the Dominican aviation industry. Technically they aren't suppose to say anything until the investigations are over, but...

 

[cavok]

While true fro the media, this coming mainly from people in the Dominican aviation industry. Technically they aren't suppose to say anything until the investigations are over, but...

Well, I'll believe it when I actually see the transcripts from the towers at La Isabela and SDQ. A pilot friend of mine told me SDQ was immediately cleared of all traffic.

 

[chrisrose97]

Well, I'll believe it when I actually see the transcripts from the towers at La Isabela and SDQ. A pilot friend of mine told me SDQ was immediately cleared of all traffic.

We may never see the real transcripts due to high level officials covering their butts. If all the warnings would have been heeded and the dominican aviation offcials actually did something( they didnt because they are all goverment hacks), we wouldnt have this accident today. Any body whistle blowing in the dominican aviation industry gets black listed immediately.

 

[windeguy]

Is it really possible for the Dominican officials to hide the transcripts in such a high profile case (or any case for that matter)?

 

[cavok]

We may never see the real transcripts due to high level officials covering their butts. If all the warnings would have been heeded and the dominican aviation offcials actually did something( they didnt because they are all goverment hacks), we wouldnt have this accident today. Any body whistle blowing in the dominican aviation industry gets black listed immediately.

Very true. Two main issues are mentioned in the video - failure to follow mandatory duty and rest times, lax maintenance by the company, and failure to adequately monitor and enforce those by the civil aviation authorities here.

Landing at the nearest airport with malfunctioning flight controls is not always the best option. There have been many accidents where aircraft with flight control problems have made it to the airport only to crash on landing because you're not always going to be able to control it with the slower speeds required for landing. The United DC-10 that crashed in Sioux City years ago is a good example. There most likely were other small airports before that, however, without the emergency services available, many more people, if not all, would probably have died. The pilots were not able to control the aircraft at the slower speeds need for landing.

My take is that the reports we're hearing are an attempt to deflect blame to the tower controllers instead of where it really belongs - on the company and the civil aviation authorities. Consider who it is that owns this company.

 

[CristoRey]

Very true. Two main issues are mentioned in the video - failure to follow mandatory duty and rest times, lax maintenance by the company, and failure to adequately monitor and enforce those by the civil aviation authorities here.

Landing at the nearest airport with malfunctioning flight controls is not always the best option. There have been many accidents where aircraft with flight control problems have made it to the airport only to crash on landing because you're not always going to be able to control it with the slower speeds required for landing. The United DC-10 that crashed in Sioux City years ago is a good example. There most likely were other small airports before that, however, without the emergency services available, many more people, if not all, would probably have died. The pilots were not able to control the aircraft at the slower speeds need for landing.

My take is that the reports we're hearing are an attempt to deflect blame to the tower controllers instead of where it really belongs - on the company and the civil aviation authorities. Consider who it is that owns this company.

I had no idea the head of Public Works made such a handsome salary... and apparently neither did alot of other people according to whats being said on social media.
No doubt Alicia will be looking into this one.

 

[JD Jones]

I had no idea the head of Public Works made such a handsome salary... and apparently neither did alot of other people according to whats being said on social media.
No doubt Alicia will be looking into this one.

He pulled in untold millions during the reign of the PLD with the "Air Ambulance" charge on vehicle insurance policies.

Even today, don't be surprised if it's on your insurance policy.

 

[DBL J]

That explains a lot, i could never figure out why their was so much marketing around "air ambulances" seeing kiosks at several of the big malls (Blue & Mega Centro)

 

[NALs]

A cartoon that appeared today in El Caribe newspaper was reproached by Nieves as "grotesque and reprehensible." It is about Gonzálo Castillo in an airplane on fire and falling from the sky and on the side it says "Penco's Airline." He is also wearing a pilot's hat with the PLD's single yellow star and hints of purple, the political party's color. It sata "we guarantee you that we will not crashhhh."

It was known this tragedy was going to serve for political purposes.

 

[Nadie21]

You may not like his choice of sound but at 38 years old comining from a barrio in Puerto Rico he made millions of dollars producing music for internationally award winning artist while your claim to fame is... you've played a few gigs for drunks at the local tavern.
To each their own buddy.

So? What is Your point? Poor becoming rich? Big deal he produced music!