The jewelry is partially to blame for sure in most instances. Usually a Novia sees it along with cash and tells her boyfriend or cousin, etc. about it. Then the planning starts. As for killing it might not be planned but happens ............
There are probably a lot of people in LT that knew he had Rolex watches. That's not to say the police didn't take them though.
I seem to remember someone posting a thread about this incident on DR1.You missed the two black guys pistol whipped in Batey by a group of Dominicans for their gold chains. And one of the perps was an off duty cop?
Ya gotta luv the it happens everywhere excuse.From London England --
Leave your expensive watches at home or they’ll be stolen, Chelsea and Mayfair shoppers warned
Public safety campaign launched by prominent online auction house in response to surging watch thefts in the capital
Excuse or reality?Ya gotta luv the it happens everywhere excuse.
The discussion of how "the same things happen everywhere" I find irrelevant to what happened in this situation.Excuse or reality?
Some places it happens more than other places. Even inside the DR there is quite a difference.Ya gotta luv the it happens everywhere excuse.
Those Frenchies definitely tend to be pretty cliquish and associate extensively within their own group.I noticed on the LinkedIn website, the French/American victim was connected to our French builder who built our home in Las Ballenas. Victim was a resident of Las Ballenas.
Those Frenchies all go around in the same circle or know of each other, it seems. It's a tribal thing
I'll dig and try to get the real scoop
I lived in Las Terrenas and that wasn't my experience. Of course language is always going to influence who you socialize with. I spoke Spanish with the French and Italians I know there. I made more English speaking friends though. Americans are always very sociable I find. Much more than the British.Those Frenchies definitely tend to be pretty cliquish and associate extensively within their own group.
Maybe the ones you met were from France? There are a lot of French-Canadian owners in my condo complex and I'm always amazed how many don't speak any English or Spanish.I lived in Las Terrenas and that wasn't my experience. Of course language is always going to influence who you socialize with. I spoke Spanish with the French and Italians I know there. I made more English speaking friends though. Americans are always very sociable I find. Much more than the British.
Yes I have only made friends with French expats. We mostly spoke Spanish. They all had businesses in Las Terrenas.Maybe the ones you met were from France? There are a lot of French-Canadian owners in my condo complex and I'm always amazed how many don't speak any English or Spanish.
Sorry power went of while posting here is the translation & source.
Found dead and gagged a North American national in a village in Las Terrenas
The Lands, Samana. - He was found dead and gagged at about 9:00 pm last night Wednesday October 26 the lifeless body of a man who was identified as Mario Jack Oliver 71 years old of North American nationality, who was an entrepreneur.
The same residence in the Las Whales sector of the municipality of Las Terrenas in this province of Samana, according to location information the causes of death stole several Rolex watches, as well as a safe box that was found in the residence.
Members of the Preventive Police and DICRIM presented at the scene accompanied by Magistrate Reinaldo Quevedo and the forensic doctor Dr. Caren, who certified that the death was caused by craneal trauma and manual understanding in the c bear (hanging).
The body was sent to the INACIF Institute of Forensic Science in San Francisco de Macoris for research purposes.
Source: redesdelnordeste.com
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You're right, amigoThe jewelry is partially to blame for sure in most instances. Usually a Novia sees it along with cash and tells her boyfriend or cousin, etc. about it. Then the planning starts. As for killing it might not be planned but happens ............
5,000 pesos is a sign of wealth to many of those tramps that walk the streets.You're right, amigo
This morning our other friend who knew him in Las Terrenas said he would indulge with hookers occasionally. And brought some Rolex's with him. Maybe they were replica Rolex's?
Fake Rolex
Crazy to think someone with his street smarts how stupid it was flaunting even a hint of wealth to strangers these days.
Much less working girls
The problem with expats that find themselves in such predicaments is that they wear certain jewelry, in this case Rolex watches, at the wrong place, at the wrong time, and to impress or within an eye of the wrong person. If having and wearing fancy jewelry/articles/clothing in the DR was always dangerous, I don't think companies like Swarovsky, Louis Vuitton, Cartier, Bulgari, Mont Blanc, ROLEX, etc would be successful in the DR. Yet, the DR has these stores and somebody is buying in them and they aren't buying to keep whatever they buy hidden in a safe 24/7.
Well - there are Places and There are Places... On any sorta Friday night one can see the Mercedes and Porsche (s?) and low slung whatever speeding out to Casa De Campo where the ACTUAL Wealthy Are... Behind Actual Gates with Armed GuardsThe problem with expats that find themselves in such predicaments is that they wear certain jewelry, in this case Rolex watches, at the wrong place, at the wrong time, and to impress or within an eye of the wrong person. If having and wearing fancy jewelry/articles/clothing in the DR was always dangerous, I don't think companies like Swarovsky, Louis Vuitton, Cartier, Bulgari, Mont Blanc, ROLEX, etc would be successful in the DR. Yet, the DR has these stores and somebody is buying in them and they aren't buying to keep whatever they buy hidden in a safe 24/7.
You know there were no Rolex dealerships in the DR until a few years ago, right? DR1 itself is older. The interesting fact is that when the DR figured among the countries with the highest murder rates in Latin America there were no Rolex, Mont Blanc, Cartier, etc stores. Now that the DR don't figure among them, there are. This could be just a coincidence.Admitting that it is even a meteric--doubtful at best--- the DR has 2 stores that are officially Rolex dealership........ 2 for 10 million people.
That's what you say, but there is no such thing as supporting a store without a decent volume of sales, much less two and the other ones that will open in the future. Not selling/maintaining many implies having a corner in a department store or a corner in a store with multiple luxury brands because the msrket can't sustain one store dedicated to one brand, but less more than one store.So said doubtful metric would, in effect, point towards the DR being a place where not many Rolexes are bought and/or maintained.
Perhaps because it is too dangerous ? ( not my opinion, mind you, just based off your metric ).
Maybe, thbut it's well known that things such as murders and thefts among expats are quite high. This very forum is a testament to that as hardly a year goes by without a thread created of such-and-such expat that was killed, often time the victim a member too. Homicides due to domestic violence are not even taken into account since that isn't a crime in the same sense as a homicide during a robbery or for some other reason. Care to explain why is it more common to see threads on DR1 of expats that were stolen from and/or killed while forums where most of the members are Dominicans this isn't as common?As for the victim, the watches were probably a secondary opportunity for the murderous thieves. A stolen Rolex is like a used condom, useless, or else you are trading it for a fraction of its value ........ no way the buyer is leaving the DR with it, any police/custom control in a first world will show the watches as stolen. " no mama, no papa" watches.