child support standards in the DR

Anastacio

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Fatherhood can be based on the assumption that the mother will automatically be a manipulative crazy bitch.

ALL Dominican women are Manipulative crazy bitches when they get dumped by a man, child or no child, such beauty can turn your stomach when the real woman comes out, and the ugly reality inside. And that is not a joke!
 

Africaida

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Its not a story I invented but in my experience, a woman can turn out to be a very manipulative crazy bitch when it comes to a break in the relation and that woman will take everything in her power including the children to get what she thinks she deserves to get. In my story there was not even a break as such at that time, the couple was still together, she just ran off taking everything she could her hands on and left the child with the grandparents whilst her husband was abroad. Nice he?

I understand my point is that unless she is proven to be a bitch, he has no reasons to act as if she was one. If indeed she is one, let him react accordingly....

There are plenty of deadbeat dads, yet it would be crazy for a woman to withhold a child from his father because the father might become one.
 

Africaida

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ALL Dominican women are Manipulative crazy bitches when they get dumped by a man, child or no child, such beauty can turn your stomach when the real woman comes out, and the ugly reality inside. And that is not a joke!

I am no expert in Dominican women, but I find it hard to believe. Call me naive, but you guys should hang out with women who are not looking at you as a meal ticket (DR and other countries), that would greatly reduce the odd of dealing with a Manipulative crazy bitch.:)
 

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I understand my point is that unless she is proven to be a bitch, he has no reasons to act as if she was one. If indeed she is one, let him react accordingly....

There are plenty of deadbeat dads, yet it would be crazy for a woman to withhold a child from his father because the father might become one.

That's why it is so hard to debate this thread, we do not know the full circumstances.
 

Anastacio

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I am no expert in Dominican women, but I find it hard to believe. Call me naive, but you guys should hang out with women who are not looking at you as a meal ticket (DR and other countries), that would greatly reduce the odd of dealing with a Manipulative crazy bitch.:)

My claim is not foreigner specific, do not presume and yes you are naive when it comes to relationships with Dominican women, you have never had one, so I suspect your experience is rather limited:ermm:
 

Africaida

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My claim is not foreigner specific, do not presume and yes you are naive when it comes to relationships with Dominican women, you have never had one, so I suspect your experience is rather limited:ermm:

I admit it as I have never had a relationship with a woman, Dominican or otherwise ;) :)
 

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I am no expert in Dominican women, but I find it hard to believe. Call me naive, but you guys should hang out with women who are not looking at you as a meal ticket (DR and other countries), that would greatly reduce the odd of dealing with a Manipulative crazy bitch.:)

Um....what country would that be? I'm in the USA and the Women here are notorious nay World Leaders at turning unsuspecting, loving and devoted Men into just that. I have found that more education and higher income only raises the bar on these Womens' expectations. This doesn't only apply to the hetero female population. Consider yourself lucky to be imune to these Harpies' call. They put 3rd World Women to shame when it comes to manipulation and outright ruthlessness.

We will never know the true statistic but I'll bet that the vast majority of domestic protection orders are granted to Women who are positioning themselves for favorable judgements and have never been the victim of any abuses by the defendants. They abuse protective laws as often as they abuse public assistance. Just another martial style in the battle of the sexes. Most Men aren't capable of the concentration required to remember all those lies.

No. I don't think that class, education or 3rd World status have much to do with that type of behavior. It's the individual. Some hold family above all else and some have been convinced that they don't need a Man....about halfway into the relationship. Note though, how they never stop needing that Man's money.

This is exactly why US Men should be out in front publicly supporting an Equal Rights Ammendment. With Equal Rights come Equal Responsibility.
 

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@ acira + anastacio
Thank you for being reserved in your judgement.

@ the holier-than-thou moral brigade
would you prefer the child being given to adoption?
would you prefer the father to be a typical local who's going to support her with $ 40,-/month, if that?
would you prefer the mother to be one more young woman who quit school 1 year prior to getting her degree?
would you prefer me staying with the woman even if the relationship would be less than harmonious with all the negative consequences for the child?
why are you incapable of seeing the parallel to a normal divorce situation in a developed country, which are common even during pregnancy?
better an end in terror than terror without end.

I don't feel obliged to get into the details of the situation just to for the sake of getting absolution from the moral absolutists on this forum, who are certain to have reserved a front row seat in heaven, but who are nevertheless busy throwing first stones - I'm sure they are without any faults, moral or otherwise.
Re the explanation to neighbors and child that the father was killed in a car accident abroad:
If you have any better idea for the woman's family to explain the father's absence without losing face, and for the kid not to be negatively impacted by the news that his father left of his own volition prior to his/her birth- I'm all ears.
 

SKing

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@ acira + anastacio
Thank you for being reserved in your judgement.

@ the holier-than-thou moral brigade
would you prefer the child being given to adoption?Ummmm, sorry bro. That's not your call
would you prefer the father to be a typical local who's going to support her with $ 40,-/month, if that?
would you prefer the mother to be one more young woman who quit school 1 year prior to getting her degree?
would you prefer me staying with the woman even if the relationship would be less than harmonious with all the negative consequences for the child?
why are you incapable of seeing the parallel to a normal divorce situation in a developed country, which are common even during pregnancy?
Ummmm, because in divorce the dad gets his visitation and doesn't have the mother tell the child that he is dead
better an end in terror than terror without end.

I don't feel obliged to get into the details of the situation just to for the sake of getting absolution from the moral absolutists on this forum, who are certain to have reserved a front row seat in heaven, but who are nevertheless busy throwing first stones - I'm sure they are without any faults, moral or otherwise.
Re the explanation to neighbors and child that the father was killed in a car accident abroad:
If you have any better idea for the woman's family to explain the father's absence without losing face, and for the kid not to be negatively impacted by the news that his father left of his own volition prior to his/her birth- I'm all ears.[/QUOTEUmmmm, yeah I got a better idea....be a f*ckin father to the child you made! Grab those balls you were swinging when you laid down with that girl and make some decisions IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD, not your selfish a$$ best interest. I never said you had to be with that woman, in fact, i specifically told you to support the child,,not her but you are one low down, sorry a$$ excuse for a man. WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A VASECTOMY OR WEAR A RELIABLE CONDOM, YOU WANT A CHILD. PUNTO. Now you wanna act like the child is something dispensible, like a shirt you take back cause you got it home and didn't like it. You are ridiculous, and I, of all people am not holier than thou and you can type till you get carpal tunnel, there is no reason you can give me for you to be walking out of this child's life. ]


Como te dije antes, Dios te va a atender.

SHALENA
 

RacerX

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@ acira + anastacio
Thank you for being reserved in your judgement.

@ the holier-than-thou moral brigade
would you prefer the child being given to adoption?
would you prefer the father to be a typical local who's going to support her with $ 40,-/month, if that?
would you prefer the mother to be one more young woman who quit school 1 year prior to getting her degree?
would you prefer me staying with the woman even if the relationship would be less than harmonious with all the negative consequences for the child?
why are you incapable of seeing the parallel to a normal divorce situation in a developed country, which are common even during pregnancy?
better an end in terror than terror without end.

I don't feel obliged to get into the details of the situation just to for the sake of getting absolution from the moral absolutists on this forum, who are certain to have reserved a front row seat in heaven, but who are nevertheless busy throwing first stones - I'm sure they are without any faults, moral or otherwise.
Re the explanation to neighbors and child that the father was killed in a car accident abroad:
If you have any better idea for the woman's family to explain the father's absence without losing face, and for the kid not to be negatively impacted by the news that his father left of his own volition prior to his/her birth- I'm all ears.

"He was a chicken s00t coward who liked cheap p000y from destitute women. He didnt mind climbing all over me to get his rocks off but when I got pregnant he decided he had better things to do." How's that?
 

SKing

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"He was a chicken s00t coward who liked cheap p000y from destitute women. He didnt mind climbing all over me to get his rocks off but when I got pregnant he decided he had better things to do." How's that?

Perfect!! And I'm waiting for him to come back with some crazy mess talk cause tonight with me, you get either a curse out or a lollipop (and I ain't got no more damn lollipops!)

SHALENA
 

La Rubia

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mm123;989852? Re the explanation to neighbors and child that the father was killed in a car accident abroad: If you have any better idea for the woman's family to explain the father's absence without losing face said:
I think these lies come back to bite later in life when they are found out. How do you explain that you've been financially supporting mom, if in fact you are dead? You also made reference to facebook pictures--again the truth will be found out by a curious 17 year old later who will want to find anything about you but won't find an obituary. If there's anyway you can allow the possibility of the child finding you as an adult, I think he/she will be better off in the end.

If the family feels the need to lie, let them do it, nobody is going to believe you were killed in an accident anyway. The child would be in good company if he/she believed you went back to your wife and your first family didn't want you to go back to the second.

I know it's gotten ugly, but just want to say that you should be given credit for manning up and taking financial responsibility without being forced to. Many simply leave the woman in the lurch completely. I also think the amount you've proposed may be a little too generous to begin with.
 

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Bigwhiskey, I'm with you man! Furthermore, this dude KNOWS that's his CHILD!!!! You don't come up with these sorry ass excuses if there were doubts of the child being his!!!!! If there was anything shady going on while he was seeing her then his thoughts should have been focused more on determining paternity issues. Who in their right MIND would send money for pre-natal care without knowing FIRST if the child is truly theirs!!!! For those who think he can get away with this kind of crap, think again...THERE ARE WAYS OF FINDING HIM and he just provided a bit of info as to what area he is from without realizing it, and that's just a START!!!!!
Even if he lived there, it would still be quite possible for him not to be the father.
He is a foreigner who doesn`t live there so claiming that he absolutely knows is ludicrous.

Prenatal DNA testing is not routine and common and it is not cheap so if you are going to rag on him for giving her some cash before making such a determination, the least you could do is tell him how to do it.
 

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even if he lived there, it would still be quite possible for him not to be the father. he should have known her better!!!!! he fell for the "ay, papi te amo, te quiro" bull****...hook, line and sinker!!!!!!
He is a WEAK foreigner who doesn`t live there so claiming that he absolutely knows is ludicrous. He shot his load in her, he knows!!!

Prenatal dna testing is not routine and common and it is not cheap so if you are going to rag on him for giving her some cash before making such a determination, the least you could do is tell him how to do it.
maybe it isn't cheap where you are, but he can get it done in sd for approx $270 us, that's cheap!!!! Something he should have researched before posting, it's that simple.

ADNLAB Pruebas de Paternidad - Inicio
 

mm123

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@ acira + anastacio
Thank you for being reserved in your judgement.

@ the holier-than-thou moral brigade
would you prefer the child being given to adoption?Ummmm, sorry bro. That's not your call
would you prefer the father to be a typical local who's going to support her with $ 40,-/month, if that?
would you prefer the mother to be one more young woman who quit school 1 year prior to getting her degree?
would you prefer me staying with the woman even if the relationship would be less than harmonious with all the negative consequences for the child?
why are you incapable of seeing the parallel to a normal divorce situation in a developed country, which are common even during pregnancy?
Ummmm, because in divorce the dad gets his visitation and doesn't have the mother tell the child that he is dead
better an end in terror than terror without end.

I don't feel obliged to get into the details of the situation just to for the sake of getting absolution from the moral absolutists on this forum, who are certain to have reserved a front row seat in heaven, but who are nevertheless busy throwing first stones - I'm sure they are without any faults, moral or otherwise.
Re the explanation to neighbors and child that the father was killed in a car accident abroad:
If you have any better idea for the woman's family to explain the father's absence without losing face, and for the kid not to be negatively impacted by the news that his father left of his own volition prior to his/her birth- I'm all ears.[/QUOTEUmmmm, yeah I got a better idea....be a f*ckin father to the child you made! Grab those balls you were swinging when you laid down with that girl and make some decisions IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD, not your selfish a$$ best interest. I never said you had to be with that woman, in fact, i specifically told you to support the child,,not her but you are one low down, sorry a$$ excuse for a man. WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A VASECTOMY OR WEAR A RELIABLE CONDOM, YOU WANT A CHILD. PUNTO. Now you wanna act like the child is something dispensible, like a shirt you take back cause you got it home and didn't like it. You are ridiculous, and I, of all people am not holier than thou and you can type till you get carpal tunnel, there is no reason you can give me for you to be walking out of this child's life. ]


Como te dije antes, Dios te va a atender.

SHALENA

Querida Shalena,

Ud sigue olvidando:
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Este es el forum legal, no lo de consejos y opiniones de aspecto moral, donde obviamente Ud se cre arbitro qualificado
2.
Quien le educo a Ud que no le ensenaron la cortesia mas minima, que se esta tomando el derecho de insultar a otros participantes? Quizas porque se puede esconder detras del anonimato?
Ud se cre el Papa que tiene derecho a juzgar a todos los demas?

And if you're a single mother, I don't know the details, but let me return the favor and just speculate that you are not exactly a shining example of wisdom and moral rectitude.
 

Malibook

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maybe it isn't cheap where you are, but he can get it done in sd for approx $270 us, that's cheap!!!! Something he should have researched before posting, it's that simple.

ADNLAB Pruebas de Paternidad - Inicio
I don`t understand Spanish but just the picture of a little girl being swabbed would seem to indicate that this is not prenatal DNA testing.

He is in a relationship with a woman who gets pregnant so he is giving her money.
Isn`t that normal?
It would seem absurd for him to tell her she isn`t getting a peso until after a postnatal DNA test.

Of course it would be best if the parents get married and live happily ever after but this isn`t always realistic and at least he is owning up to his financial obligations.
I don`t know the details or nature of their relationship or the status of his life/career so who am I to judge him?