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I read the curfew was extended on April 3rd to April 18th. I also read the "state of emergency" has been extended to April 30 (not sure if this includes the curfew). I've been hearing from people here they will extend the curfew another 25 days. I have been unable to find any news links confirming this.
Is the curfew still set until April 18th as of now? Sorry if there is already another thread covering this, but I couldn't find one.
I've been in the Puerto Plata area since January and my flight back to EWR (New Jersey Airport) is scheduled for May 7th; if the airport is open. Airline still did not cancel the flight.
Also, has anyone tried going to the beach amid the curfew? I know a couple people who did early this month and they were kicked off by the tourist police.
Is the curfew still set until April 18th as of now? Sorry if there is already another thread covering this, but I couldn't find one.
I've been in the Puerto Plata area since January and my flight back to EWR (New Jersey Airport) is scheduled for May 7th; if the airport is open. Airline still did not cancel the flight.
Also, has anyone tried going to the beach amid the curfew? I know a couple people who did early this month and they were kicked off by the tourist police.
Well you just improved my case I was making, that that protecting the elderly in isolating them from the joung will never be possible. Less so in DR and not in any other country.
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Nick,
Is your POP-EWR flight on May 7th with United Airlines? If so, it looks like it won’t occur. United is currently not showing any flights to/from Puerto Plata until May 23rd.
If you go online and look at your reservation, it may not say “CANCELLED” yet. But it probably does say “A Modification Has Been Made to Your Itinerary”.
To confirm, try and book a ticket on UA for May 7th. It will say “no flights available”. If you go into the advanced settings, you can use “calendar view”. There it will show the first POP flight isn’t until May 23rd.
Let us know how you make out? Good luck and I hope you make it home soon. But right now, it looks like your only options are Delta and Jet Blue. Both flying out of Santo Domingo (SDQ). They are flying the planes into SDQ empty though. So I don’t imagine they will keep operating those flights for much longer?
There are many ways that Covid-19 differs from the seasonal flu but the most important difference is that Covid-19 is far more deadly. According to WHO, seasonal flu has a mortality rate of 0.1 percent compared to a mortality rate of 3 to 4 percent for Covid-19. In other words, Covid-19 is 30 to 40 times more deadly than seasonal flu. Think about that for a moment. Add to that the fact that Covid-19 is far more contagious and very little is known about it. Doctors are discovering that even patients who recover from Covid-19 may have permanent neurological or heart damage.
Seasonal flu has been around for a long time, we know a lot about it, and we even have a vaccine for it. None of those things are true with Covid-19. The experts still don't even really understand it yet. Covid-19 is very different than seasonal flu.
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/q-a-similarities-and-differences-covid-19-and-influenza
There definitely is a fear factor making it all worse. Still better safe than sorry. Hopefully they start opening up in may but with restrictions continuing social distancing and precautions on higiene. I think a good idea would be to open business in the day time and maybe continue the curfew from 8 pm to help the salud publica.
I think there's a lot of small businesses that have much less foot traffic than farmacias and supermarkets that could be opened in May. Just require maskes to enter and maybe limit the number of customers permitted inside at any one time.
Will/Can someone show me a ray of sunshine in some country in the world ???
I don't see anybody getting ahead of the curve - beating Covid - winning
choose your word
This seems to me to be a MONUMENTAL struggle that is tough to conquer
Our RD numbers are spreading and ballooning........
I don't see anybody getting ahead of the curve - beating Covid - winning
choose your word
This seems to me to be a MONUMENTAL struggle that is tough to conquer
Our RD numbers are spreading and ballooning........
I applaud your volunteerism! You should be encouraged to mingle with the general public, not worrying about PPE or social distancing, for at least 8 hours daily and report back if you survive. I'm sure we'll have a nice wake, conforming to proper social distancing protocols, perhaps remotely on Zoom LOL
Somebody sent me a video of Navarette yesterday with hundreds of Dominicans partying by the river for Semana Santa. Not a single mask was visible. I guess we’ll know in a week or so if the virus was partying with them. sigh
the reports that I have seen are that only Sweden has adopted the "herd immunity" plan and it appears to be working for them https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-coronavirus-lowest-daily-rise-fortnight.html
I know that when I was a kid we did not have the vaccines & I had ALL those - whooping cough, measles, mumps, chicken pox -- but the polio vaccine just came out I was in grammar school and I am sure we can agree that was a good thing.
I agree that only the herd immunity is the only thing that is going to work - I think that all that is being done now is simply to preserve our doctors & nurses... Only a small portion of those who go on ventilators in the US live to come off them - (don't think that is the case in Canada)...
We have no idea how many people are infected - and the tricky part appears that those who show NO symptoms at all can actual be infected and contagious. All the clamoring for "testing"seems a bit silly to me since you can get the test at 9 AM and go out and get infected at 10 AM while waiting for the test results... The only thing that the test appears useful for is to report the Death Count since only those who have tested positive for Covid19 are counted in the Death Count.
I can understand the pressure to open the economy - which means really opening the schools - since that is basically the child care system. I will happen state by state and then probably county by county.. It is in the hands of the Governors but -- I am not sure who will obey what...
Certainly lots and lots of folks are really suffering economically- and it does appear that the "peak" predictions are accurate. I don't know if there has been a map for the DR? I think FL is now forecast for peak at about April 26th..
So perhaps by mid May - or even sooner - the Governor here will open the State - he was late to close it.
Time will tell.
I know that when I was a kid we did not have the vaccines & I had ALL those - whooping cough, measles, mumps, chicken pox -- but the polio vaccine just came out I was in grammar school and I am sure we can agree that was a good thing.
I agree that only the herd immunity is the only thing that is going to work - I think that all that is being done now is simply to preserve our doctors & nurses... Only a small portion of those who go on ventilators in the US live to come off them - (don't think that is the case in Canada)...
We have no idea how many people are infected - and the tricky part appears that those who show NO symptoms at all can actual be infected and contagious. All the clamoring for "testing"seems a bit silly to me since you can get the test at 9 AM and go out and get infected at 10 AM while waiting for the test results... The only thing that the test appears useful for is to report the Death Count since only those who have tested positive for Covid19 are counted in the Death Count.
I can understand the pressure to open the economy - which means really opening the schools - since that is basically the child care system. I will happen state by state and then probably county by county.. It is in the hands of the Governors but -- I am not sure who will obey what...
Certainly lots and lots of folks are really suffering economically- and it does appear that the "peak" predictions are accurate. I don't know if there has been a map for the DR? I think FL is now forecast for peak at about April 26th..
So perhaps by mid May - or even sooner - the Governor here will open the State - he was late to close it.
Time will tell.
Sweden - For every Yin there is a Yang
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ns-Austria-Denmark-begin-easing-lockdown.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ns-Austria-Denmark-begin-easing-lockdown.html
I may be alone on this but I do not trust the numbers PLUS I would like to know how many deaths chalked up as death from this virus are actually from other pre-existing conditions.
Based on some of what I have read I don't trust the test.
If it were up to me I'd go with the Sweden method and let people get back to their lives. If businesses start to open I will be a customer.
Funny thing, my wife is Dominican. I ask her every day if she or her mother or aunt know anyone with the virus and so far NADA, zero. Maybe she/they are just lucky.
Drove down the Malecon today in POP, as expected highest count of people out and about to date, 287. (last high count was 145) Largest one group was 6 people mostly single person or 2's and 3's.
Based on some of what I have read I don't trust the test.
If it were up to me I'd go with the Sweden method and let people get back to their lives. If businesses start to open I will be a customer.
Funny thing, my wife is Dominican. I ask her every day if she or her mother or aunt know anyone with the virus and so far NADA, zero. Maybe she/they are just lucky.
Drove down the Malecon today in POP, as expected highest count of people out and about to date, 287. (last high count was 145) Largest one group was 6 people mostly single person or 2's and 3's.
Sweden is taking their lumps up front, instead of stretching them over time.
True. Limited testing in this country would seem to suggest that there are lots more cases than have been reported. I do not think anyone is tripping over themselves to attribute deaths that occur at home or outside of the "Covid" designated hospitals to this disease.
Regardless of the curfew, I see enough mingling of people in lines and on the streets on the few forays I have made that would suggest that the current containment efforts will fall far short of the stated goals assuming my town is indicative of most towns.
At this point in time, just guessing, ~100,000 cases wouldn't surprise me and I would have to then ask where the other ~800 bodies are being buried. If this country wishes to "get back to normal" in anything less than 6 months, they had better up their testing and tracing game substantially. ~7200 tests done in the 43 days since the 1st case (the Italian) works out to about 168 tests per day. There is no way that limited testing can even begin to track the actual spread of this disease in the DR.
The Govt knows this, the Doctors know this, the media should be able to figure this out and anyone who gives it just a little thought on their own should arrive at the same conclusion. In two more weeks or so the jig will be up and quite possibly a very stark reality could be evident to everyone. If the plan was to hold down the fort until the election in May and then pass the torch to someone else, I don't think that is going to work out for this Govt. and the new Cabal will be plunged into chaos with no plan and no means to effectively move forward.
Covid-19 is already going to be a disaster. Adding a new Govt to the mix and all that entails in this country, yikes.
{my thoughts, not necessarily the same as yours}
Regardless of the curfew, I see enough mingling of people in lines and on the streets on the few forays I have made that would suggest that the current containment efforts will fall far short of the stated goals assuming my town is indicative of most towns.
At this point in time, just guessing, ~100,000 cases wouldn't surprise me and I would have to then ask where the other ~800 bodies are being buried. If this country wishes to "get back to normal" in anything less than 6 months, they had better up their testing and tracing game substantially. ~7200 tests done in the 43 days since the 1st case (the Italian) works out to about 168 tests per day. There is no way that limited testing can even begin to track the actual spread of this disease in the DR.
The Govt knows this, the Doctors know this, the media should be able to figure this out and anyone who gives it just a little thought on their own should arrive at the same conclusion. In two more weeks or so the jig will be up and quite possibly a very stark reality could be evident to everyone. If the plan was to hold down the fort until the election in May and then pass the torch to someone else, I don't think that is going to work out for this Govt. and the new Cabal will be plunged into chaos with no plan and no means to effectively move forward.
Covid-19 is already going to be a disaster. Adding a new Govt to the mix and all that entails in this country, yikes.
{my thoughts, not necessarily the same as yours}
I truly have no idea what the population of the POP region is....... a couple hundred thousand maybe ?
What are the odds that I know 4 out of the supposed 39 cases of confirmed covid19 ?
Those numbers smell fishy to me........
One of the guys who was tested positive was first told it was regular flu, then a few hours later oooops sorry we read that wrong its covid19.
They then told him he caught it in spain ( he works there )...... the guy told him he had been in the dr for 2 and half months...... so they said, oh well it must have been here then......duuuh.
They also said he was not very infectious....... and 2 days later his aunt was evacuated by ambulance in a bad state........ positive for covid19......
Reassured by all that ? I sure as hell ain't.
What are the odds that I know 4 out of the supposed 39 cases of confirmed covid19 ?
Those numbers smell fishy to me........
One of the guys who was tested positive was first told it was regular flu, then a few hours later oooops sorry we read that wrong its covid19.
They then told him he caught it in spain ( he works there )...... the guy told him he had been in the dr for 2 and half months...... so they said, oh well it must have been here then......duuuh.
They also said he was not very infectious....... and 2 days later his aunt was evacuated by ambulance in a bad state........ positive for covid19......
Reassured by all that ? I sure as hell ain't.
90% have co-morbidities. And the number of young and healthy who have died directly from CV19 is a teeny, tiny fraction.
Prove those statements wrong.
Or is "scared", lack of critical thinking and sheep-like behavior how you rule your life? Hey, it's your life. Sounds like a blast.
I endanger no one. I encourage all to think for themselves and not be led around by "authorities" who have lied to them before.
And, yes, my vast experience with HIV/AIDS does, in fact, elevate my understanding and knowledge beyond that of some DR1 noob innerweb guy with a chubby over what CNN tells him.
Even the "authorities" disagree with each other.
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