Coronavirus - In the DR

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austriaco

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Godwin's Law? Really?

Ok, I see, did not know of that law.

Maybe correcting myself a little bit omn the facts: Just pointing out the historic fact that one of the ideological ideas of the Nazis was to get rid of the weak and as such its prudent to assume that they would go for herd immunity as that was the core of their believes. Of course they did it in an more active manner, so can't really compare it. And it was not even the main focus, which was more on that racist stuff they were into.

Did not try to offend anyone, if I did I apologise, also apology if it was too far fetched.
 

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The number of pre-existing conditions that are co-morbidities of this virus are limited, and age is not a "condition."

Yes agreed, but obesity and diabetes are in that list. Unfortunately those two are a big issue in DR. Obesity is in the 40% range (seen numbers between 23% and 54%) and diabetes in the 10 - 20% range. Taken together resulting in my 50% guess of pre existing conditions as heart conditions are additional and also quite common.
 

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Carlos,

I'm curious if you or mods in general care about the content offered within a post and not simply is it DR related or within the confines of the thread?

I don't mean to presume nor do I want to break the rules but at some point one has to take a stand on allowing extreme bias or misrepresentation.

Please delete if necessary but please answer or confirm. Thanks

Do yourself a favor and watch this 5 minute video. It might convince some about the BS that is the Wuhan Virus. We will never get back the civil liberties that we are losing.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ROuK62s84&feature=youtu.be

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/louder-with-crowder/

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austriaco

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Anyone reading the statistics from US about Latinos being more affected by the Virus?

Fake news or bad news for RD with like 99% Latinos?
 

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Anyone reading the statistics from US about Latinos being more affected by the Virus?

Fake news or bad news for RD with like 99% Latinos?

There are 34% of fatalities in New York city. Not sure if it extends to the entire USA.
I read that there are 500 Dominicans who died in New York city alone. Various factors tied to economics, access to healthcare, living situation (extended family under the same roof), services jobs with contact with public....etc.

Not tied to DR composition, but these factors may also be present in DR. Also, the fact that travel will resume can't be good news if Latinos are disproportionately affected by the virus (thinking the arrival of many asymptomatic relatives who are US based).

http://www.diariodeinteres.com/2020/04/mas-de-500-dominicanos-han-fallecidos.html
 

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Carlos,

I'm curious if you or mods in general care about the content offered within a post and not simply is it DR related or within the confines of the thread?

I don't mean to presume nor do I want to break the rules but at some point one has to take a stand on allowing extreme bias or misrepresentation.

Please delete if necessary but please answer or confirm. Thanks



https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/louder-with-crowder/

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'Louder With Crowder - Right Bias - Conservative - Republican - Not CredibleFactual Reporting: Mixed - Not always Credible or Reliable
RIGHT BIAS

These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.

Overall, we rate Louder with Crowder a borderline Questionable Right biased source based on extremely sensational headlines and story selection that always favors the right. We also rate them Mixed for factual reporting due to the use of poor sources and a few failed fact checks. Keep in mind Steven Crowder is a comedian, which needs to be taken into consideration when viewing his content.


Louder with Crowder is a podcast, radio show and website run by Steven Blake Crowder who is a Canadian-American conservative political commentator, actor, and comedian. Louder with Crowder began as Youtube Channel in 2009 and as of 2019 has over 3 million subscribers. His shows are also broadcast on the strongly right leaning Blaze TV. Steven Crowder labels his podcast as comedy."

Did you watch the video? I never heard of the guy, but I watched it because of your complaint. Nothing political per se, he’s just claiming that many of the deaths attributed to Covid19 may not be, as he claims there are no numbers for flu deaths.

YOU are the one trying to bring politics into this thread. Continue at your own risk.
 
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Same with Caribe Express for sending and changing money. The office in Cabarete opens completely different hours than those on the website.

Yes, I was talking about Cab too. The local merchants take cues from others I guess. Still I can't complain, janets and the bank have been great!
 

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We have a development in Cabrera

I hear an official in the Edenorte Office has been stricken

They have closed the office and are monitoring the staff

What about the customers ???
 
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Ok folks, here we go again. I don't know who these people are on the local site groups, but too many are posting absurd questions which to me is indicative that they should have returned on one of the ferry flights. It is a sad, sad thing to see that there are folks in a national emergency that simply have no clue where to get the appropriate info. Big part of this is they don't speak Spanish.

You don't go out unless you need groceries or pharmacy. You don't go to the beach and walk your dog or kite. You don't go to the supermarket 2 and 3x per day. You don't ride your Harley to Cab East and back after 5pm. You don't go for a walk to get excercise. You simply stay home. You don't need to ask Charles Usterlandt on Everything Cabarete if you can go to the beach to feed the beach cats and dogs. You don't go buy fruit in Gaspar because you feel the fruit guy likes you because you're a special gringo. You stay home. You simply stay home. Your vacation is over. Do push-ups in your house. Organize yourself. You're not in Oklahoma.

And if you need real answers, try this site. Some of these Medicare B recipients here really know their stuff.
 
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Anyone reading the statistics from US about Latinos being more affected by the Virus?

Fake news or bad news for RD with like 99% Latinos?
Come to Elmhurst Hospital in Queens and all you will see are Hispanics infected with coronavirus and dying. This pandemic is disproportionately killing off people of color.

As to other issues posted here if you take a teeny tiny percentage of a very large number and remove all social distancing, self-isolating, and lockdown measures millions would have been dead by now.

The social impact on the rest of humanity would have been far more damaging and permanently destructive of our global economy than the imposition thereof. The measures taken were necessary.
 
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But to your point: yes, I do think herd immunity is the way to go. Let those with the lowest risks go live their lives. Maybe some get sick, maybe they won't. But immunity will follow the sickness, and the more immunity, the better off we'd all be. Just keep the oldsters and those with conditions known to be a problem away from everyone until the herd is immune.

Following that advice would have been catastrophic on the health care system in the NYC area. With all the plethora of social measures (distancing, self isolation, lockdowns) enacted, the hospitals are overwhelmed. Imagine otherwise.

I went to see both Elmhurst and Brooklyn Hospital Center the other day. The refrigerated containers are out on the sidewalk holding the dead.

The hallways of the hospital are parked with endless lines of Coronavirus patients. It's like a traffic jam of parked stretchers. Doing what you suggest would have been horrendous.

The dead and dying would have been out in the open air. The 911 system would have collapsed. Emergency calls would have overwhelmed the system to the point that most would die at home.

You did not think on that point when you thought about herd immunity and teeny tiny percentages of a population. There is no comparison between this coronavirus pandemic and a flu season.

The sheer volume of patients at one time in one hospital never occurred during the worst flu seasons after the last pandemic. This is unprecedented in scope, dimension and intensity.

You're completely wrong on this one. I usually agree with you on most issues not this time. This is unparalleled. With no measures taken, the death toll and the burden on health care would have been unimaginable.

I agree with the measures taken by the global health care authorities
 

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Come to Elmhurst Hospital in Queens and all you will see are Hispanics infected with coronavirus and dying. This pandemic is disproportionately killing off people of color.

As to other issues posted here if you take a teeny tiny percentage of a very large number and remove all social distancing, self-isolating, and lockdown measures millions would have been dead by now.

The social impact on the rest of humanity would have been far more damaging and permanently destructive of our global economy than the imposition thereof. The measures taken were necessary.

Speaking with a colleague who lives in Queens NY, I was informed that this particular hospital which you reference serves a majority Hispanic population (mostly illegal aliens) within triangular communities of Elmhurst, Jackson Heights, and CORONA. It would only make sense that losses there would consist of majority Hispanic patients. It is actually more a measure of common sense, than an attack on people of colour. The second hospital highest with losses in Queens NY serves the Flushing community, which possesses New York's largest Asian community.
 
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