hurricane season 2017

Status
Not open for further replies.

MikeFisher

The Fisherman/Weather Mod
Feb 28, 2006
13,896
2,486
113
Punta Cana/DR
www.mikefisher.fun
Is there a scientific reason DR is so lucky hurricane wise?? Every single hurricane season its the same, a hurricane threat, all neighboring islands get badly hit and even Haiti, but DR gets saved somehow.

Its like hurricanes and tropical storms try to avoid coming here..

because we are the good ones.

Mike
 

cavok

Silver
Jun 16, 2014
11,227
5,143
113
Cabarete
Still don't see Irma turning north according to the 11pm update(?). That would place it about 60 miles off the north coast on it's current track. As long as it doen't come any closer, all I'm expecting is a rought ride, probably with still a lot of flooding that could easily be as much as we saw in Novermber, and a lot of trees and power lines down. I've been in 6 hurricanes - the strongest were Andrew and Wilma in Miami, and Hugo in San Juan. Really do not want to add a 7th to the list.

Don't really know where they get these high wave forecasts of 20+ feet from(?). During Hugo I was in the Howard Johnson's in Isla Verde only 150 meters from the beach. Wind was blowing directly onshore at 110 - 120 mph. Not sure what the storm surge was, but not more than 10 ft because that's how high the road is there and no water ever came across the street.

Same with Hurricane Andrew. It did have about an 18 foot storm surge, but the wind is just blowing too hard for big waves to form onshore anyways. Same with Wilma and I was on the beach about 3 hours before Hurricane David made landfall north of West Palm Beach.

Speaking of storm surge, storms surges are highest when they come in across relatively shallow waters like did Andrew over Biscayne Bay and Harvey in off the GOM. Coming in off the North Coast here where there is relatively deep water shouldn't produce too much storm surge except maybe in places like Cabarete Bay and Sosua Bay.

During Wilma, over 8000 power poles were were broken by wind or fallen trees. Some places in West Miami were w/o power for 6 weeks - and FPL is one of the best power co's in the US and we had crews from power companies in many other states streaming down to help.

I just want this thing to turn north soon. The closer it gets inside of 50 miles from the coast - the situation will deteriorate rapidly.. The infrastructure here is weak. All the north/south roads could be wiped out and we'd be isolated w/o power or supplies here on the North Coast for a long time.

The DR doesn'thave the resources to deal with a Cat 4 or maybe now even a Cat 5(?). Be prepared. A lot of good advice given in previous posts. Pray for a turn!
 

Natu

Member
Jan 20, 2013
283
8
18
Not much to worry about.. The trajectory changed a few miles north.. Looks like we wont have it all that bad after all :D

I just hope we get enough rain here in the south, because the south is in need of more rain and because i want things to change up a bit.. The weather has been very boring lately here in the capital, just heat, heat, heat and more heat.. A couple of rainy days wont hurt, of course, in moderation.
 

Retire

New member
Jan 18, 2017
73
0
0
Not much to worry about.. The trajectory changed a few miles north.. Looks like we wont have it all that bad after all :D

I just hope we get enough rain here in the south, because the south is in need of more rain and because i want things to change up a bit.. The weather has been very boring lately here in the capital, just heat, heat, heat and more heat.. A couple of rainy days wont hurt, of course, in moderation.
Looking at 5 AM NOAA . I don't see North at all . Says WEST ,at 16.6 N 57.0 W @ 14 MPH .
 

Cdn_Gringo

Gold
Apr 29, 2014
8,712
1,183
113
I'm surprised that COE hasn't yet issued any sort of formal watches/warnings for the DR. We all know that people here don't move too quickly unless consistently prodded to. The news reports that I have seen are few and amazingly subdued in their content.

The COE website wasn't much help either. I kind of shook my head when I read the limited info presented that finished up with the statement that the next statement would be issued at 1pm Tuesday almost 20 hours from when I was on the site. My cell usually receives a message when COE advises that it could rain. I'm beginning to think that quite possibly the officials are asleep at the switch or they have a reason to delay rousing the populous from its slumber.
 

HDR

Active member
Nov 21, 2012
468
116
43
Puerto Rico is our Savior

Mike

Love your posts but I think you are wrong here. Puerto Rico slows them down, Pico Duarte steers them away so no direct hit. Either turns north or south. And yeah i have seen it for 17 years.

And this one seems to turn somewhat north also...

Stay safe.
 
Last edited:
May 5, 2007
9,246
93
0
I'm surprised that COE hasn't yet issued any sort of formal watches/warnings for the DR. We all know that people here don't move too quickly unless consistently prodded to. The news reports that I have seen are few and amazingly subdued in their content.

The COE website wasn't much help either. I kind of shook my head when I read the limited info presented that finished up with the statement that the next statement would be issued at 1pm Tuesday almost 20 hours from when I was on the site. My cell usually receives a message when COE advises that it could rain. I'm beginning to think that quite possibly the officials are asleep at the switch or they have a reason to delay rousing the populous from its slumber.

No idea who COE is but NOAA issued warning for Puerto Rico and so far watch for DR
 
May 5, 2007
9,246
93
0
So far DR has not issued warnings, it will most surely come later today. ( it is the countries officials that issues warnings, not NOA) http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/090514.shtml?cone#contents

Whether or not NOOA issues warnings, based on these advisories I would be concerned if I lived on North Coast of DR Hell, Florida is damm concerned, issuing State of emergency in entire state to allow mobilization of supplies etc http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at1+shtml/090514.shtml?cone#contents
 

ju10prd

On Vacation!
Nov 19, 2014
4,210
0
36
Accountkiller
This is a very dangerous storm. My thoughts are for jstarebel who is going to be close to the eye and my friends in SKN who are already boarded up and locked down.

NHC 5am relevant points:

LOCATION...16.6N 57.0W (still slight drift south)
ABOUT 320 MI...515 KM E OF THE LEEWARD ISLANDS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...150 MPH...240 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 14 MPH...22 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...937 MB...27.67 INCHES

Interests in the Dominican Republic, Haiti, the Turks and Caicos
Islands, Cuba, and the southeastern and central Bahamas should
monitor the progress of Irma.


At 500 AM AST (0900 UTC), the distinct eye of Hurricane Irma was
located near latitude 16.6 North, longitude 57.0 West. Irma is
moving toward the west near 14 mph (22 km/h), and this general
motion is expected to continue today, followed by a turn toward the
west-northwest tonight.

Hurricane-force winds extend outward up to 45 miles (75 km) from the
center and tropical-storm-force winds extend outward up to 140 miles
(220 km).

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 05/0900Z 16.6N 57.0W 130 KT 150 MPH
12H 05/1800Z 17.0N 58.9W 130 KT 150 MPH
24H 06/0600Z 17.7N 61.5W 130 KT 150 MPH
36H 06/1800Z 18.6N 64.2W 130 KT 150 MPH
48H 07/0600Z 19.6N 67.0W 125 KT 145 MPH
72H 08/0600Z 21.2N 72.5W 120 KT 140 MPH
96H 09/0600Z 22.4N 77.2W 115 KT 130 MPH
120H 10/0600Z 24.0N 81.0W 115 KT 130 MPH

Recon and satellite fixes indicate that Irma is moving toward the
west or 270 degrees at 12 kt. The hurricane is moving around the
periphery of the Atlantic subtropical ridge, which in fact is quite
strong at this time. This persistent pattern should keep Irma on a
general westward track for the next 24 hours, with a west-northwest
track thereafter. The guidance envelope and many of the ensemble
members of the GFS and the ECMWF models have shifted slightly
westward since the previous run. The NHC forecast also shifted
slightly westward, and it is on top of the multi-model consensus.
The confidence in the forecast beyond 3 days is lower, since the
guidance spreads out more.

Users are reminded to not focus on the exact forecast track,
especially at the longer ranges, since the average NHC track errors
are about 175 and 225 statute miles at days 4 and 5,
res

Irma could directly affect Hispaniola, the Turks and Caicos, the
Bahamas, and Cuba as a dangerous major hurricane later this week.





Track is still about 100km north of north coast and there is a gradual consensus towards the NHC track in the models from 2am. But the UKMet which is proving the good forecaster of this storm has many of its ensemble models impacting DR. It will be much clearer when the time the storm turns to the north later today as the NHC predicts. I pray for early advice from NHC later today of that turn to keep it far enough away from us.

For those on the north coast they should be completing their hurricane preparation in expectation of hurricane watches or warnings being issued today rather than tropical storm watches with tropical storm conditions being due within 48 hours. Don't be complacent we will likely get some very strong tropical storm force winds and even gusts to hurricane force, loads of rain and storm surge despite being on the normally weaker south side of the storm.

Assume the worst and hope for the best.
 
Last edited:

POP_DR

New member
May 29, 2016
47
0
0
Absolutely. The comment was just on your info that DR is on watch, and it is not yet.
 

Cdn_Gringo

Gold
Apr 29, 2014
8,712
1,183
113
Yep Dominican COE. Sorry for not being clear in the OP.

If as I suspect and POP_DR alludes to, the warnings come with their 1pm situational update today, it seems to me they are cutting it kind of close. I'm not suggesting that the DR declare a state of emergency 5 days in advance like Florida did yesterday but one would think that if Puerto Rico has watches and warnings posted, the least the DR could do is issue a storm watch notification to get the media interested and start the process of heating up the campo grapevine. This is shaping up to be the most significant weather event of the year so far and the near silence from officials is perplexing.
 

Hillbilly

Moderator
Jan 1, 2002
18,948
514
113
The satellite imagery is scary as all get out.

Definate eye and rolling in our direction.


As of yet, no right (Northward) turn...You know, this might be historically nasty storm.



HB,


It is probable that the Cibao Valley will not get any wind damage, but flooding along the Lower Yuna Basin is certainly a concern. That is San Francisco de Macoris eastwards all the way to Nagua.

I think if I lived in that area, I would really start making major preparations. Those of us in the Cibao had better prepare for blackouts and a lack of water.

Jus' sayin'...
 

Bob Boyd

Active member
Feb 3, 2004
276
30
28
Fox News is reporting it will probably be a cat 5 later today, Tuesday. START PLANNING NOW, Don’t Wait until the stores are sold out.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.