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Next minister of Interior & Police says government will apply the law
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Andre90210 is turning into click bait Bob. He knows nothing about boots on the ground. Please don't bother. Also he blocked me and it's not fair! 😭
Everybody makes mistakes once in a while. Recommending for someone to be an illegal alien (for up to a year or so) might just be considered one of those mistakes. Also keep in mind that "advice" was given while the PLD was ignoring immigration laws.In regards to this topic, I constantly read where DR1's own in house legal consultants, Guzmán Ariza, are frequently quoted with the phrase "legal work around", as it relates to paying as you leave our country.
Here is another quote from the same legal entity, that rarely, if ever gets mentioned by those truly obsessed with the situation......
"A foreign national, such as a retiree, a person intent on doing business, or an investor, who seeks to stay in the Dominican Republic for a year or more should consider obtaining residency status."
Nationality, Citizenship and Immigration Guzmán Ariza | The Dominican Republic Law Firm
The rights of citizenship are only bestowed upon a Dominican national who has reached the age of eighteen, or who is married or has been married before..drlawyer.com
The key words being should & consider, connected with the specific time frame mentioned. Not must, after 30 days.
The obvious answer is that it is OK to deport illegal Haitians but not to deport other illegal aliens?
Of course I understand that Haitians have been treated differently. The government even revised the Constitution to back date the time when people from Haiti gave birth and instead of having Jus Solis they were declared "in Transit" and not citizens. There was a big uproar in the international community because the DR made these people stateless. Is it that DR's fault that Haiti is a failed state? The DR government told the international community to go screw themselves, it is our constitution and we can do what we want.
That said, there are parts of the immigration law that apply directly to Haitians and that is true. There are many parts of that law that are not related to just Haitians. People want to ignore the above discussion on those parts of the law with regards to the rest of the world.
There are other parts of the immigration law that apply to everyone else including Haitians. Some people above are missing the point completely
that there are many points of immigration laws that the PLD glossed over and that this is not just about Haitians.
If you actual read the law, it is very clear that it is about all immigration. A person in the DR who is not from Haiti, who is instead on a tourist care after 30 days is an illegal alien. By the law, they can pay to extend that time another 30 days up to a maximum of 60 days, but very few will take the time and trouble to do that. By the law, there is no way to be legal after 60 days with the extension , or 30 days if you don't have the extension, if you arrived on a tourist card regardless of when you pay, or don't pay, an exit fee. This is all part of the law that anyone can read for themselves.
hey captain mangu you still beating this topic....bro let it go..... its not healthy for you ... go pick platanos for your Mangu
I'm taking all bets that Abinader does absolutely nothing about overstayers throughout his entire presidency. Only to the expats with residency is this a problem. But as long as youre spending those dollars/euros and not causing any problems, it's a "problem" the Dominicans absolutely love. Fill those empty condos my overstaying friends. They need you.
For most people it's the quality of the posts that counts, not the quantity. Not for you, obviously!
What is really needed is a 6 month Snowbird Visa, with a cost of 500 $US.
I am not sure how big a "mistake" overstaying a 30 day tourist visa is. But I do know how big a mistake of working/living owning property would be especially if one were to marry a restless Dominican chica. Either way who really cares, is drunk driving illegal here? Probably, has anyone ever been arrested for it, maybe a few drunks who plowed into a government building
No need to just offer a 6 mo stay.....
all types visas.... varying lengths of time as the gov't sees fit
I say - sell it in advance - as they do the 30 day
Yes,
That is the obvious answer.
Haitians are walking across DR borders en masse hundreds of thousands
And it has been going on for years.
Since you live in Cabarete, all you have to do is drive around from Sabaneta to Puerto Plata.
There are thousands of illegal Haitians and their barrios, also mixed in Dominican barrios.
Ask your Dominican family how they feel about it and if they like Haitian illegals.
The Dominicans I know do not.
Yes I do speak French not Creole and I do have Haitian friends.
I also have had Haitians working construction for me and many do have a cedula.
Haitians are not bad pre se, but uncontrolled ingress is.
However crime and illegal entry is a real problem for the DR.
I take Vásquez statement, to refer specifically to Haitians.
Quote ["Vásquez says that the migration issues worsened because of the delays in the government passing the ruling to apply the law. He said during those limbo years, many more people migrated here."]
Citizens from USA, CAN, EU who arrive by air and overstay do not pose an internal threat to the DR.
I am sure that Dominican politicians regardless of which party, are intelligent enough to realize this.
You obviously are not!
You repeatedly state to be a libertarian, that you don't care what people do, yet keep on harping about residencia.
People will make up their own mind, as to their needs and risk valuation and tolerance.
99.9 % of air arrivals and overstays have substantial financial backing and are pumping millions of pesos into the DR economy.
Haitians on the converse are cheap labour, a security risk, have no money and have great numbers, estimated to be 500-800K
Everyone living in the DR knows the current financial, employment and medical situation.
Tourism and hospitality are huge revenue generators.
Do to CV19 economic losses any tourism revenue is important.
Every plane landing and every disembarking passenger translates into 100's of thousands pesos into DR gov. revenues.
You can bet you're Cabarete trasero, that the DR gov know this and want this.
Overstayers will continue to be accommodated and not deported.
Dominicans have very little tolerance on Haitians.
Billions of USD have been pumped into Haiti by the international community and have been drained into the sand of Haitian beaches-aissapeared, drained.
Life of Haitians has not changed or improved.
The DR cannot and will not be responsible for Haiti.
The DR cannot allow uncontrolled ingress of Haitians.
Haitians themselves will have to affect changes in their country, as have done other Nations.
The global situation is dire enough and international aid will be none or less.
Windy:
"The obvious answer is that it is OK to deport illegal Haitians but not to deport other illegal aliens?"
Lobo:
YES!
WINDY
LOOK AT THIS FACE!
Vásquez and his minions won't be chasing US overstayers through DR streets.
Let's see how Haitians will fare and how Vásquez statements translate into DR reality.
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