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Ecoman1949

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If way past 60 you will make it without EV's, especially in the DR.

And this is just for short 500 mile trips.
US and CAN cover large distances for road trips.
Maybe they will try to shame us for flying and driving??

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I took 2 500-mile drives in electric SUVs and experienced the good, the bad, and the ugly of EV road tripping​


No one will be forced to buy an EV. ICE and ICE/Electric Hybrids will be with us for a long time. Gas is not going away for those that can afford to pay for it. I’m holding out for a hydrogen powered vehicle. Major vehicle manufactures are already producing them. 90 seconds to refill a hydrogen powered vehicle. Anywhere from 30 to ninety minutes to recharge an EV. To cross my island in the winter with the heater and headlights on, I’d have to stop and recharge at least three times. About a 1000 kilometre drive.

We will have one of the largest commercial hydrogen production facilities in Canada about 10 minutes drive from my house. Powered by 216 windmills which will also provide a power surplus to be fed into our power grid. Most of the hydrogen will be shipped to Germany to replace oil and natural gas for their energy generation. The remainder will be distributed to vehicle gas stations throughout the island. Two other smaller scale hydrogen facilities are also planned and other large ones are planned in other parts of Atlantic Canada.

Hydrogen is an easy element to extract and is everywhere. No mining required unlike lithium and rare earth elements for EV battery’s. A better approach to minimize gasoline and diesel powered vehicles, instead of the mad rush to EV’s which won’t stop the coming 3 to 5 degree rise in our temperature.
 

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No one will be forced to buy an EV. ICE and ICE/Electric Hybrids will be with us for a long time. Gas is not going away for those that can afford to pay for it. I’m holding out for a hydrogen powered vehicle. Major vehicle manufactures are already producing them. 90 seconds to refill a hydrogen powered vehicle. Anywhere from 30 to ninety minutes to recharge an EV. To cross my island in the winter with the heater and headlights on, I’d have to stop and recharge at least three times. About a 1000 kilometre drive.

We will have one of the largest commercial hydrogen production facilities in Canada about 10 minutes drive from my house. Powered by 216 windmills which will also provide a power surplus to be fed into our power grid. Most of the hydrogen will be shipped to Germany to replace oil and natural gas for their energy generation. The remainder will be distributed to vehicle gas stations throughout the island. Two other smaller scale hydrogen facilities are also planned and other large ones are planned in other parts of Atlantic Canada.

Hydrogen is an easy element to extract and is everywhere. No mining required unlike lithium and rare earth elements for EV battery’s. A better approach to minimize gasoline and diesel powered vehicles, instead of the mad rush to EV’s which won’t stop the coming 3 to 5 degree rise in our temperature.
The majority of people will never accept 1-1/2 hours of wasted time on a trip. Even die hard greenies won't.
Hybrids make sense. 50 mph ice vehicles make sense and are likely less impact on the environment than an EV.
 

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We will have one of the largest commercial hydrogen production facilities in Canada about 10 minutes drive from my house. Powered by 216 windmills which will also provide a power surplus to be fed into our power grid. Most of the hydrogen will be shipped to Germany to replace oil and natural gas for their energy generation. The remainder will be distributed to vehicle gas stations throughout the island. Two other smaller scale hydrogen facilities are also planned and other large ones are planned in other parts of Atlantic Canada.

Hydrogen is an easy element to extract and is everywhere. No mining required unlike lithium and rare earth elements for EV battery’s. A better approach to minimize gasoline and diesel powered vehicles, instead of the mad rush to EV’s which won’t stop the coming 3 to 5 degree rise in our temperature.

It will be a long time for exclusive use of new tech in the DR and other developing countries.
They will keep using and repairing whatever they have.
The best thing would be efficient public transit.
The new train from STI -SDQ gives hope.

Some countries are trying to force an end to combustion engine manufacturing.
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Canada to ban new combustion engine cars by 2035. Here is how they'll do it.​


Hydrogen will also take a while, but we can hope.
An ongoing saga.
"Big hurdles remain, however. In order to produce, deliver, use and store the gaseous fuel, the industry requires government support and significant public and private spending. And production needs to ramp up. Hydrogen has to be manufactured from other energy sources: either by reformulating natural gas or through an electrolysis process that uses electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. The resulting hydrogen can essentially be a low-carbon fuel if the carbon-dioxide emissions are captured and sequestered in the natural-gas process, or if the electricity used comes from non-emitting power generation."


The DR and other poor developing countries will continue to use older tech and buy it when discarded by the most advanced countries.
Wether people believe in global warming, draughts, fires, coral bleaching, warming oceans, more extreme weather patterns,
Or not makes no difference to existing realities.
Maybe flight delays due to weather will be a reminder.
 

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It will be a long time for exclusive use of new tech in the DR and other developing countries.
They will keep using and repairing whatever they have.
The best thing would be efficient public transit.
The new train from STI -SDQ gives hope.

Some countries are trying to force an end to combustion engine manufacturing.
US-EU-CAN

Canada to ban new combustion engine cars by 2035. Here is how they'll do it.​


Hydrogen will also take a while, but we can hope.
An ongoing saga.
"Big hurdles remain, however. In order to produce, deliver, use and store the gaseous fuel, the industry requires government support and significant public and private spending. And production needs to ramp up. Hydrogen has to be manufactured from other energy sources: either by reformulating natural gas or through an electrolysis process that uses electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. The resulting hydrogen can essentially be a low-carbon fuel if the carbon-dioxide emissions are captured and sequestered in the natural-gas process, or if the electricity used comes from non-emitting power generation."


The DR and other poor developing countries will continue to use older tech and buy it when discarded by the most advanced countries.
Wether people believe in global warming, draughts, fires, coral bleaching, warming oceans, more extreme weather patterns,
Or not makes no difference to existing realities.
Maybe flight delays due to weather will be a reminder.
The 2035 Canadian ban on gas powered vehicles is Liberal government proposal. It will die and be long forgotten when the Conservatives take power in the next election. So will the useless carbon tax which won’t change the 3 to 5 degree temperature rise. Other more sane initiatives will be implemented to reduce global temperature rise.

Hydrogen fuels vehicles are here, in use, and newer hi tech vehicles will be available soon from major North American and Asian Vehicle manufacturers. Toyota recently developed a new hydrogen powered ICE engine. Our hydrogen generation plants in Canada will be electrolysis based and connected to our main power grid which is fed primarily by renewable hydroelectric sources.

We have been killing each other efficiently with mechanized weaponry powered by gasoline, diesel, bunker oil, and kerosene, (jet fuel) for hundreds of years. War is the one constant thing in worldwide culture and it isn’t going away. Oil will always be with us. If you don’t believe me, have a chat with Russian and Chinese military officials.
 
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The majority of people will never accept 1-1/2 hours of wasted time on a trip. Even die hard greenies won't.
Hybrids make sense. 50 mph ice vehicles make sense and are likely less impact on the environment than an EV.
Overall, Chico, if you weigh the engineering pros and cons and factor in carbon footprints, the best combination for the average commuter is a hydrogen ICE/ electric hybrid. The advantages are many. Less environmental impact, increased dependability because hydrogen fuelled engines aren’t subject to the same wear and tear as gasoline powered engines, faster refueling compared to gas powered vehicles, no emissions other than water out the exhaust, cheaper and more cost effective once production economy of scale is met. The hydrogen technology can be easily upscaled to include tractor trailers and reduce our transportation costs for food, dry goods, lumber, etc. We wouldn’t be at the mercy of OPEC anymore. No one has a monopoly on hydrogen.

Hydrogen can also be used to heat homes, further reducing the demand for petroleum products.
 

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Thats the harsh reality of the current problems with EV usage in our big land. Sweet Jesus in the Garden Bill! Almost $140,000 in up front costs for a Ford F-150 EV and home electrical upgrades to charge it. That’s a mortgage for a lot of people where I live. Certainly not a vehicle the average middle class Dominican could afford.

Friend of mine just bought a Jeep Sahara hybrid with recharge capability. Cost him a fortune and a sensor failed about two months after he bought it. He can only charge it the slow way until the sensor is replaced. The sensor was ordered two months ago.
 
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The 2035 Canadian ban on gas powered vehicles is Liberal government proposal. It will die and be long forgotten when the Conservatives take power in the next election. So will the useless carbon tax which won’t change the 3 to 5 degree temperature rise. Other more sane initiatives will be implemented to reduce global temperature rise.

Hydrogen fuels vehicles are here, in use, and newer hi tech vehicles will be available soon from major North American and Asian Vehicle manufacturers. Toyota recently developed a new hydrogen powered ICE engine. Our hydrogen generation plants in Canada will be electrolysis based and connected to our main power grid which is fed primarily by renewable hydroelectric sources.

We have been killing each other efficiently with mechanized weaponry powered by gasoline, diesel, bunker oil, and kerosene, (jet fuel) for hundreds of years. War is the one constant thing in worldwide culture and it isn’t going away. Oil will always be with us. If you don’t believe me, have a chat with Russian and Chinese military officials.
It is less than intelligent not to use fossil resources, for a countries like Canada second largest and the world's benefit till cleaner tech is widely available.
It was no to Germany and Japan, Canadian citizens pay premium prices for energy sources the country has.
Bridge tech is needed for those living now, the future is not here yet.
We are always forced to live today, tomorrow is never here yet.

Regardless innovation will not be stopped.
China’s EV push worked—the country is now the world’s largest market for EVs and is home to some of the world’s largest manufacturers of EVs and EV batteries.

Now, the government and some of China’s biggest energy companies are jumping into hydrogen energy. More than 10 state-owned energy companies including Sinopec and State Grid have plans to increase the use of hydrogen energy in the country.

China is the largest producer of hydrogen today, at about 25 million tons (Mt), or roughly a quarter of the global total. Most of the volume is produced from fossil fuels (60 percent from coal, and 25 percent from natural gas) as feedstocks in refineries or chemical facilities. However, China is increasingly exploring cultivating the production and consumption of lower-emission hydrogen to help meet energy needs and spur industrial development while also addressing climate concerns. In particular, China’s 2060 carbon neutrality commitment made in 2020 is a major policy-oriented development that could aid the shift in hydrogen production away from fossil fuels to renewables, greater deployment of FCVs, and the use of hydrogen in harder-to-abate sectors.

One of the most ambitious in betting on electric cars in China, the world's largest auto market, is Volkswagen.

On the eve of the Guangzhou show, Volkswagen said its brands, including Volkswagen and Audi, plan to launch a total of more than 15 near-all-electric plug-in cars by 2018, many of which will be locally produced.

In China's congested and bustling cities, electric charging or hydrogen fuelling stations are a rare sight. Volkswagen says the infrastructure is not good enough, and believes plug-in hybrid technology is the solution.

Plug-in cars come equipped with a small gasoline engine that can power the car when it is drained of electricity.

The future is here in part, in the DR combustion engines will be part of life for a long time.
Yet all foreign innovations and advanced tech is trickling down to the DR.
Unfortunately the gob.do needs to generate tax revenues by high import duties.
This makes imported consumer goods prohibitively expensive and substantially more costly than in US-EU-CAN

China is a highly advanced country, Russia is thrown back by decades and will be Chinas pawn.
Both of them are not to be trusted as allies, yet we have to deal with China especially in commerce.

Military research by US and China results in major tech advances and more efficient killing.
Once invented the genie is out of the bottle.
Net zero carbon, imagine just the impact of Ukraine war on the worlds environment.

You bet, all of the environmental and global political issues have a major impact on the DR.
Economy, trade, tourism, infrastructure, gasoline imports and numerous other effects.
Even the Sahara sands reach the DR.
Ocean currents, warming, dying marine life, marine pollution, over fishing, high sustained temperatures, draught, water resources.
Yes they are DR related and affect the DR, it is not just an island to itself or Haiti.
 

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Overall, Chico, if you weigh the engineering pros and cons and factor in carbon footprints, the best combination for the average commuter is a hydrogen ICE/ electric hybrid. The advantages are many. Less environmental impact, increased dependability because hydrogen fuelled engines aren’t subject to the same wear and tear as gasoline powered engines, faster refueling compared to gas powered vehicles, no emissions other than water out the exhaust, cheaper and more cost effective once production economy of scale is met. The hydrogen technology can be easily upscaled to include tractor trailers and reduce our transportation costs for food, dry goods, lumber, etc. We wouldn’t be at the mercy of OPEC anymore. No one has a monopoly on hydrogen.

Hydrogen can also be used to heat homes, further reducing the demand for petroleum products.
Time for your country to get off it's derrière:
The country is way behind in building a modern transit system in urban areas,
Subways, trams, light urban rail, fast long distance rail.
All existing infrastructure is ancient, including roads and bridges.

If you are worried about carbon footprints and commuters, public transit is the way.
Not telling people to buy EV's, private charging stations, or hydrogen vehicles.

The aim has to be to have urban transit and get people out of private cars.
If you want to see how modern transit works ago to EU, Japan, China.

The DR could have a rail system in the small country.
PUJ-SDQ-STI-POP to start with.
Obviously the majority of DR citizens lives in the two major cities.
It is there where modern transit is needed, to reduce pollution and traffic congestion.
This will help fight global warming and rising ocean temperatures.
Even in small towns like P.P. Sosua, Cabarete the traffic is increasingly horrendous.
 

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Overall, Chico, if you weigh the engineering pros and cons and factor in carbon footprints, the best combination for the average commuter is a hydrogen ICE/ electric hybrid. The advantages are many. Less environmental impact, increased dependability because hydrogen fuelled engines aren’t subject to the same wear and tear as gasoline powered engines, faster refueling compared to gas powered vehicles, no emissions other than water out the exhaust, cheaper and more cost effective once production economy of scale is met. The hydrogen technology can be easily upscaled to include tractor trailers and reduce our transportation costs for food, dry goods, lumber, etc. We wouldn’t be at the mercy of OPEC anymore. No one has a monopoly on hydrogen.

Hydrogen can also be used to heat homes, further reducing the demand for petroleum products.
Get in quick!

I don't see hydrogen busses cruising the DR soon.
Let's hope for modern transit.
 

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It is less than intelligent not to use fossil resources, for a countries like Canada second largest and the world's benefit till cleaner tech is widely available.
It was no to Germany and Japan, Canadian citizens pay premium prices for energy sources the country has.
Bridge tech is needed for those living now, the future is not here yet.
We are always forced to live today, tomorrow is never here yet.

Regardless innovation will not be stopped.
China’s EV push worked—the country is now the world’s largest market for EVs and is home to some of the world’s largest manufacturers of EVs and EV batteries.

Now, the government and some of China’s biggest energy companies are jumping into hydrogen energy. More than 10 state-owned energy companies including Sinopec and State Grid have plans to increase the use of hydrogen energy in the country.

China is the largest producer of hydrogen today, at about 25 million tons (Mt), or roughly a quarter of the global total. Most of the volume is produced from fossil fuels (60 percent from coal, and 25 percent from natural gas) as feedstocks in refineries or chemical facilities. However, China is increasingly exploring cultivating the production and consumption of lower-emission hydrogen to help meet energy needs and spur industrial development while also addressing climate concerns. In particular, China’s 2060 carbon neutrality commitment made in 2020 is a major policy-oriented development that could aid the shift in hydrogen production away from fossil fuels to renewables, greater deployment of FCVs, and the use of hydrogen in harder-to-abate sectors.

One of the most ambitious in betting on electric cars in China, the world's largest auto market, is Volkswagen.

On the eve of the Guangzhou show, Volkswagen said its brands, including Volkswagen and Audi, plan to launch a total of more than 15 near-all-electric plug-in cars by 2018, many of which will be locally produced.

In China's congested and bustling cities, electric charging or hydrogen fuelling stations are a rare sight. Volkswagen says the infrastructure is not good enough, and believes plug-in hybrid technology is the solution.

Plug-in cars come equipped with a small gasoline engine that can power the car when it is drained of electricity.

The future is here in part, in the DR combustion engines will be part of life for a long time.
Yet all foreign innovations and advanced tech is trickling down to the DR.
Unfortunately the gob.do needs to generate tax revenues by high import duties.
This makes imported consumer goods prohibitively expensive and substantially more costly than in US-EU-CAN

China is a highly advanced country, Russia is thrown back by decades and will be Chinas pawn.
Both of them are not to be trusted as allies, yet we have to deal with China especially in commerce.

Military research by US and China results in major tech advances and more efficient killing.
Once invented the genie is out of the bottle.
Net zero carbon, imagine just the impact of Ukraine war on the worlds environment.

You bet, all of the environmental and global political issues have a major impact on the DR.
Economy, trade, tourism, infrastructure, gasoline imports and numerous other effects.
Even the Sahara sands reach the DR.
Ocean currents, warming, dying marine life, marine pollution, over fishing, high sustained temperatures, draught, water resources.
Yes they are DR related and affect the DR, it is not just an island to itself or Haiti.
China is not a democracy nor is it advanced. It uses stolen technology to advance their political and economic agenda. The citizens of China do what their government decrees. They didn’t adopt EV’s because their government suggested it. China has the world‘s second largest population, and it’s one of the world’s two biggest emitters of greenhouse gases. Not a nation worthy of praise for their environmental efforts or commitments to date.

China‘s only interest is selling cars worldwide. They will strip all their resources by mining them in mines where worker safety is a secondary issue. Mining accidents and loss of worker lives are commonplace in China Due to a lack of safety standards and enforcement. They are still mining and burning high sulphur coal at an alarming rate and supplementing it with the same from Australia. They‘ve dammed the Yangtze River to the point where irreversible environmental damage has occurred and major populations have been flooded out and forced to relocate with no compensation. Again, not a country I would consider praising as an environmental model.

China’s Achilles heel is its overpopulation and diminishing resources, hence its need for hegemony to expand into other countries to secure much needed resources. I certainly wouldn’t praise a countries advancements where cultural genocide is a significant part of their political agenda. Do you honestly believe China will be carbon neutral by 2060? That will only happen if it can gets its overpopulation under control to create less demand on their stressed power infrastructure and diminishing mineral resources. It’s not going to happen.

We will fare much better in Canada. We have a relatively small population spread over a large geographical area, phenomenal natural resources including one of the largest percentages of potable surface waters supplies In the world. Our national power grid relies primarily on hydroelectric and nuclear sources. We have one of the safest nuclear reactor technologies in the world, the CANDU system. We have a modular three tractor trailer loads small scale nuclear reactor that can be set up to power 100,000 homes quickly. We have fossil fuel resources including offshore resources that can be developed with a minimum carbon footprint. Premium crude oil perfect for the needs of the petrochemical industry that needs to produce products for the EV car industry, the new generation of fuel efficient aircraft, and the biomedical industry. More reasons oil will be with us well beyond the time frames governments think it will. We have carbon capture technology and the technology continues to advance.

China has one of the biggest air forces, navy’s and armies in todays world. Imagine the emissions created to manufacture that weaponry. Imagine the petroleum products required to maintain such a force and fuel it during a war. The Chinese military complex will continue to build and not give a rats ass about the environmental impact. Such is life amigo. Like living in the DR, things are never as they seem, especially in China. If you doubt this, cast your mind back to the beginnings of Covid in China. Chinese police threw a few bags of rice in people’s apartments and locked their doors for weeks on end. The sanctity of human life means nothing in China. If human life is low on their cultural totem pole, imagine how low their environmental commitments are on that pole.

Their plan to introduce hydrogen powered vehicle while using petroleum resources to manufacture the hydrogen is self defeating, unlike Canada’s where the electric grid powered by renewables will be used to produce hydrogen.

The DR will suffer and survive climate impacts over the long term because of its geographical location and resources. They will adapt but their one weakness is overpopulation, like China. That has to be brought under control to create less demand on finite resources, including diminishing potable water supplies.

China has a financial stronghold on the DR. The effect of this could be twofold. A flood of Chinese EV’s into the DR and Chinese financial support to improve the electrical infrastructure to accommodate charging the EV’s. I agree that gasoline and diesel powered cars will be around for a long time in the DR. The government is not imposing a sunset law yet. Gas is expensive in the DR and will get more expensive. Only those that can afford it will be able to use it. That may be the main reason gasoline consumption will drop in the DR and cheap Chinese EV’s will become a viable alternative.
 

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Time for your country to get off it's derrière:
The country is way behind in building a modern transit system in urban areas,
Subways, trams, light urban rail, fast long distance rail.
All existing infrastructure is ancient, including roads and bridges.

If you are worried about carbon footprints and commuters, public transit is the way.
Not telling people to buy EV's, private charging stations, or hydrogen vehicles.

The aim has to be to have urban transit and get people out of private cars.
If you want to see how modern transit works ago to EU, Japan, China.

The DR could have a rail system in the small country.
PUJ-SDQ-STI-POP to start with.
Obviously the majority of DR citizens lives in the two major cities.
It is there where modern transit is needed, to reduce pollution and traffic congestion.
This will help fight global warming and rising ocean temperatures.
Even in small towns like P.P. Sosua, Cabarete the traffic is increasingly horrendous.
We have mass transit systems in all our major cities and many use electric busses and trams. We have light rail systems in major cities like Vancouver and Calgary. A new system was just built in Montreal. Subway systems are being expanded and renewed constantly. We have long distance rail systems but nothing like the fast trains in Europe. The economics in Canada wouldn’t justify the cost because of our small population and geographic expanse. Places like France, Italy, etc. can justify the cost because of population density and geographic size. By the way, Bombardier Canada has been a significant builder of mass transit trains worldwide.

Canadian infrastructure is upgraded constantly. New infrastructure links to the US have been built for rail and road transport of just in time delivery of parts for the US and Canadian car industry. New major highways have been built in many cities.

You may see a rail system in the DR eventually, but only when the cost is justified. The subways and trains in Santo Domingo serve large populations. They pay for themselves. Expanding on that to serve remote areas in the DR with small populations increases the cost significantly and user demand is not as high outside the major cities.
 

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We will fare much better in Canada. We have a relatively small population spread over a large geographical area, phenomenal natural resources including one of the largest percentages of potable surface waters supplies In the world.
Ecoman1949


I agree with the sentiment but... I see it as both a blessing and a curse.
We tend to take for granted that our neighbors to the south are our friends.
When things get tough will that hold true?
Anybody's guess.
Too pessimistic?
Maybe.
It's an age thing, you know.



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We will fare much better in Canada. We have a relatively small population spread over a large geographical area, phenomenal natural resources including one of the largest percentages of potable surface waters supplies In the world.
Ecoman1949


I agree with the sentiment but... I see it as both a blessing and a curse.
We tend to take for granted that our neighbors to the south are our friends.
When things get tough will that hold true?
Anybody's guess.
Too pessimistic?
Maybe.
It's an age thing, you know.



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As climate change dries up major aquifers in the US, they will increase pressure on us to export potable water from the North to the South. This issue has already been broached in the previous and current NAFTA agreements. We said no both times because once you open the tap, you can’t turn it off.

The US has unchecked population growth similar to the DR. That puts more pressure on drinking water supplies which is already a precious commodity as the aquifers dry up, and the problem will worsen. At some point US towns and cities near the Canadian border will be supplied with Canadian water.
 
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China is not a democracy nor is it advanced. It uses stolen technology to advance their political and economic agenda. The citizens of China do what their government decrees. They didn’t adopt EV’s because their government suggested it. China has the world‘s second largest population, and it’s one of the world’s two biggest emitters of greenhouse gases. Not a nation worthy of praise for their environmental efforts or commitments to date.

China‘s only interest is selling cars worldwide. They will strip all their resources by mining them in mines where worker safety is a secondary issue. Mining accidents and loss of worker lives are commonplace in China Due to a lack of safety standards and enforcement. They are still mining and burning high sulphur coal at an alarming rate and supplementing it with the same from Australia. They‘ve dammed the Yangtze River to the point where irreversible environmental damage has occurred and major populations have been flooded out and forced to relocate with no compensation. Again, not a country I would consider praising as an environmental model.

China’s Achilles heel is its overpopulation and diminishing resources, hence its need for hegemony to expand into other countries to secure much needed resources. I certainly wouldn’t praise a countries advancements where cultural genocide is a significant part of their political agenda. Do you honestly believe China will be carbon neutral by 2060? That will only happen if it can gets its overpopulation under control to create less demand on their stressed power infrastructure and diminishing mineral resources. It’s not going to happen.

We will fare much better in Canada. We have a relatively small population spread over a large geographical area, phenomenal natural resources including one of the largest percentages of potable surface waters supplies In the world. Our national power grid relies primarily on hydroelectric and nuclear sources. We have one of the safest nuclear reactor technologies in the world, the CANDU system. We have a modular three tractor trailer loads small scale nuclear reactor that can be set up to power 100,000 homes quickly. We have fossil fuel resources including offshore resources that can be developed with a minimum carbon footprint. Premium crude oil perfect for the needs of the petrochemical industry that needs to produce products for the EV car industry, the new generation of fuel efficient aircraft, and the biomedical industry. More reasons oil will be with us well beyond the time frames governments think it will. We have carbon capture technology and the technology continues to advance.

China has one of the biggest air forces, navy’s and armies in todays world. Imagine the emissions created to manufacture that weaponry. Imagine the petroleum products required to maintain such a force and fuel it during a war. The Chinese military complex will continue to build and not give a rats ass about the environmental impact. Such is life amigo. Like living in the DR, things are never as they seem, especially in China. If you doubt this, cast your mind back to the beginnings of Covid in China. Chinese police threw a few bags of rice in people’s apartments and locked their doors for weeks on end. The sanctity of human life means nothing in China. If human life is low on their cultural totem pole, imagine how low their environmental commitments are on that pole.

Their plan to introduce hydrogen powered vehicle while using petroleum resources to manufacture the hydrogen is self defeating, unlike Canada’s where the electric grid powered by renewables will be used to produce hydrogen.

The DR will suffer and survive climate impacts over the long term because of its geographical location and resources. They will adapt but their one weakness is overpopulation, like China. That has to be brought under control to create less demand on finite resources, including diminishing potable water supplies.

China has a financial stronghold on the DR. The effect of this could be twofold. A flood of Chinese EV’s into the DR and Chinese financial support to improve the electrical infrastructure to accommodate charging the EV’s. I agree that gasoline and diesel powered cars will be around for a long time in the DR. The government is not imposing a sunset law yet. Gas is expensive in the DR and will get more expensive. Only those that can afford it will be able to use it. That may be the main reason gasoline consumption will drop in the DR and cheap Chinese EV’s will become a viable alternative.
Wow you are going off in a tangent,
No-one said that China and Chi Ping are nice guys or our friends.
The Chinese seem to like an autocrat and communism.
China is not a democracy nor is it advanced. It uses stolen technology to advance their political and economic agenda. The citizens of China do what their government decrees. They didn’t adopt EV’s because their government suggested it. China has the world‘s second largest population, and it’s one of the world’s two biggest emitters of greenhouse gases. Not a nation worthy of praise for their environmental efforts or commitments to date.

China‘s only interest is selling cars worldwide. They will strip all their resources by mining them in mines where worker safety is a secondary issue. Mining accidents and loss of worker lives are commonplace in China Due to a lack of safety standards and enforcement. They are still mining and burning high sulphur coal at an alarming rate and supplementing it with the same from Australia. They‘ve dammed the Yangtze River to the point where irreversible environmental damage has occurred and major populations have been flooded out and forced to relocate with no compensation. Again, not a country I would consider praising as an environmental model.

China’s Achilles heel is its overpopulation and diminishing resources, hence its need for hegemony to expand into other countries to secure much needed resources. I certainly wouldn’t praise a countries advancements where cultural genocide is a significant part of their political agenda. Do you honestly believe China will be carbon neutral by 2060? That will only happen if it can gets its overpopulation under control to create less demand on their stressed power infrastructure and diminishing mineral resources. It’s not going to happen.

We will fare much better in Canada. We have a relatively small population spread over a large geographical area, phenomenal natural resources including one of the largest percentages of potable surface waters supplies In the world. Our national power grid relies primarily on hydroelectric and nuclear sources. We have one of the safest nuclear reactor technologies in the world, the CANDU system. We have a modular three tractor trailer loads small scale nuclear reactor that can be set up to power 100,000 homes quickly. We have fossil fuel resources including offshore resources that can be developed with a minimum carbon footprint. Premium crude oil perfect for the needs of the petrochemical industry that needs to produce products for the EV car industry, the new generation of fuel efficient aircraft, and the biomedical industry. More reasons oil will be with us well beyond the time frames governments think it will. We have carbon capture technology and the technology continues to advance.

China has one of the biggest air forces, navy’s and armies in todays world. Imagine the emissions created to manufacture that weaponry. Imagine the petroleum products required to maintain such a force and fuel it during a war. The Chinese military complex will continue to build and not give a rats ass about the environmental impact. Such is life amigo. Like living in the DR, things are never as they seem, especially in China. If you doubt this, cast your mind back to the beginnings of Covid in China. Chinese police threw a few bags of rice in people’s apartments and locked their doors for weeks on end. The sanctity of human life means nothing in China. If human life is low on their cultural totem pole, imagine how low their environmental commitments are on that pole.

Their plan to introduce hydrogen powered vehicle while using petroleum resources to manufacture the hydrogen is self defeating, unlike Canada’s where the electric grid powered by renewables will be used to produce hydrogen.

The DR will suffer and survive climate impacts over the long term because of its geographical location and resources. They will adapt but their one weakness is overpopulation, like China. That has to be brought under control to create less demand on finite resources, including diminishing potable water supplies.

China has a financial stronghold on the DR. The effect of this could be twofold. A flood of Chinese EV’s into the DR and Chinese financial support to improve the electrical infrastructure to accommodate charging the EV’s. I agree that gasoline and diesel powered cars will be around for a long time in the DR. The government is not imposing a sunset law yet. Gas is expensive in the DR and will get more expensive. Only those that can afford it will be able to use it. That may be the main reason gasoline consumption will drop in the DR and cheap Chinese EV’s will become a viable alternative.
Wow you are going off in a tangent,
No-one said that China and Chi Ping are nice guys or our friends.
The Chinese seem to like an autocrat and communism.
"People do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility and most people are frightened of responsibility." SigmundFreud

Of course China has stolen technology.
Of course China and Russia are stripping Africa and other nations of resources.

Yet where you live in the past,
China is highly advanced on the power of own research, education and tech advances.
Advances that the West is trying to catch up to.
You don't have to like it or admire it, but it is reality.

China is not the world leader in EV's or solar panels to help others.
China realized their problems and and the financial benefits of being able to outproduce and undersell all others.
Germany used to be innovator for photovoltaic panels and car manufacturing, now they are falling behind.

China is out for domination as other countries previously have been, on a long range strategy with 5000 years of history.
They do not work on a four year election cycle or democratic decisions.
Regardless, the world economy will have to deal with them.
The winners in history have never been nice guys, just the strongest and most competent.
Would you praise GBR-ESP USA- for cultural and economic genocide committed onto the colonies and Asia.

China's overpopulation is in the past.
China has a surplus of 30 million men an aging and declining population.
China is slated by the UN to have a decline to 800 million by 2050 some estimate it will go down to 700 million.
India with a youthful population is already surpassing China and billed as the largest Democracy.

Your 40 million population in the second largest country is inefficient to run the country.
By GDP CAN should not be in the G7.
Your defence is paid for by the USA and enforced by the USA, say thanks!
Of course under competent management there is huge potential, natural resources and a cooler climate in a heating up world.
Unfortunately the potential has not been lived up to, a minuscule manufacturing base and tech base.
Selling raw materials for a low price having others refine it and selling for high prices has not been a successful model.
Now, not selling or using resources at all is even worse. Even with nine years of conservatives there was no significant improvement.

Looking at history no-one stays in power for ever, all empires crumble.
I live today not tomorrow.
Great if hydrogen or other new clean technologies come along as they will.
Today I can hop on a fast train or efficient transit in EU, Japan, China.... try that in US or CAN.

You can disrespect your opponents, but you'll have to be better then they are.
In war and economy there is no second place, just the winner.

All the advances, trade and even wars have an effect on life in the DR.
Other countries just have to step up their performance in the DR, if they care.
Power abhors a vacuum, if not China will fill it.
The DR needs outside help with technology and finance.
 
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We have mass transit systems in all our major cities and many use electric busses and trams. We have light rail systems in major cities like Vancouver and Calgary. A new system was just built in Montreal. Subway systems are being expanded and renewed constantly. We have long distance rail systems but nothing like the fast trains in Europe. The economics in Canada wouldn’t justify the cost because of our small population and geographic expanse. Places like France, Italy, etc. can justify the cost because of population density and geographic size. By the way, Bombardier Canada has been a significant builder of mass transit trains worldwide.

Canadian infrastructure is upgraded constantly. New infrastructure links to the US have been built for rail and road transport of just in time delivery of parts for the US and Canadian car industry. New major highways have been built in many cities.

You may see a rail system in the DR eventually, but only when the cost is justified. The subways and trains in Santo Domingo serve large populations. They pay for themselves. Expanding on that to serve remote areas in the DR with small populations increases the cost significantly and user demand is not as high outside the major cities.
What you have is insufficient aging infrastructure and gridlock in the large cities.
Unaffordable housing 1brm condo in Vancouver $3000, Toronto slightly less.
Low wages highway costs of living.
A very limited skytrain line, the rest in constant gridlock in the city, bridges and old highways.

Young families escaping to Alberta for lower prices to grow families.

Fewer can afford their trips to DR.
If they go shopping in Jumbo they spend 12,000 to 17,000 DOP, for those who still stay long time.

As far as the ocean current go, good luck.
Canada is incapable to defend itself without US help.
They could strenuously protest though.

Experts are urging the federal government to act quickly to enhance Canadian sovereignty in the Arctic before melting ice encourages more foreign vessels to use the Northwest Passage.

Some scientists predict that within 25 years, climate change could melt ice in Arctic waters, leaving them ice-free during summer months and thin enough to be kept open in the winter.

Ships travelling from Asia to Europe could trim 5,000 kilometres by taking the Northwest Passage, as opposed to the current route through the Panama Canal.

The United States doesn't recognize Canada's right to control who travels through the Northwest Passage. Washington believes many Arctic waterways are an international strait that any ship should be free to transit.

The DR will have to deal with changing ocean and land temperatures, including the result on fisheries.
As richer Nations have reduced disposable incomes, DR tourism may feel the pinch.
 

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The 2035 Canadian ban on gas powered vehicles is Liberal government proposal. It will die and be long forgotten when the Conservatives take power in the next election. So will the useless carbon tax which won’t change the 3 to 5 degree temperature rise. Other more sane initiatives will be implemented to reduce global temperature rise.

Hydrogen fuels vehicles are here, in use, and newer hi tech vehicles will be available soon from major North American and Asian Vehicle manufacturers. Toyota recently developed a new hydrogen powered ICE engine. Our hydrogen generation plants in Canada will be electrolysis based and connected to our main power grid which is fed primarily by renewable hydroelectric sources.

We have been killing each other efficiently with mechanized weaponry powered by gasoline, diesel, bunker oil, and kerosene, (jet fuel) for hundreds of years. War is the one constant thing in worldwide culture and it isn’t going away. Oil will always be with us. If you don’t believe me, have a chat with Russian and Chinese military officials.
You have to think strategically and know your place.

With little economic power and no military power big brother your major trading partner and neighbour will dominate.
If foolish CAN-Exit will leave you devastated.
Like the fools in the once Empire, cutting out their biggest trading partner and neighbour.
The clowns are gone, the pawns paying the bill.
Independence goes only with power and ability.

The DR has to align itself as best as it can, facing the currents of oceans, climate and economy.
 
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