Omicron Protection

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windeguy

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This is probably the first time in history the unvaccinated minority are being blamed for the ineffectiveness of a vaccine's ability to protect the vaccinated majority.
That's a real doozy of a vaccine.
The vaccines are the best todays tech can produce and that money can buy. Lots of money.
Sinovac sucks against Omicron at least with regard to antibody production.
Yeah, I know, it could be the B and T cells Sinovac produces that make do work "To prevent serious illnesses" yet studies don't talk about that. Hmmm..

But anyways:



Question: Now that Omicron is established in the DR, reportedly doubles every 3 days or so, how long before cases go "hockey stick"?
Answer: We may never know because of the nature of Omicron and lack of much testing.

Question: When will the DR government really, I mean really, enforce the vaccine mandate to enter all public spaces?
Answer: Impossible to say, but probably never.

The 64 Crypto Currency Question: When will we move on?
Answer: Hopefully soon. People have made their decisions and will have to live with them.
 

chico bill

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Well the data is starting to gel. And it is many of us have speculated. Pfizer's vaccine makes more people sick than if they were unvaccinated.
But keep stepping up to the plate and get your boosters as the world needs more sheep and lemmings. And it seems Omicron is the least affected (i.e. prevented) by vaccines



Let the fact checkers scramble, to find a site to refute the reports.
At some point the data will fill libraries with information on the harm these mRNA drugs are causing
 
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windeguy

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Well the data is starting to gel. And it is many of us have speculated. Pfizer's vaccine makes more people sick than if they were unvaccinated.
But keep stepping up to the plate and get your boosters as the world needs more sheep and lemmings. And it seems Omicron is the least affected (i.e. prevented) by vaccines



Let the fact checkers scramble, to find a site to refute the reports.
At some point the data will fill libraries with information on the harm these mRNA drugs are causing
I posted that info what seems forever ago regarding the negative efficacy reports about the vaccines after they fade in a few months.
 
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chico bill

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10% of the population is filling the hospitals way more than the other 90%.

How is this possible if the vaccines don`t work?
Please post that link because it, while that was the case a few months ago, the tide has turned now and it is the opposite.
I suspect Omicron won't lead to many hospitalizations except for some very infirm already.

 

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A modeler admits he only models BAD Covid outcomes (while ignoring good outcomes) to support lockdown policies and restrictions.
Read the conversation in the screenshot.

Un-freaking-believable.
Basically, Covid graphs and models don't mean sh!t, they just follow an agenda.

 

chico bill

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A modeler admits he only models BAD Covid outcomes (while ignoring good outcomes) to support lockdown policies and restrictions.
Read the conversation in the screenshot.

Un-freaking-believable.
Basically, Covid graphs and models don't mean sh!t, they just follow an agenda.

All rational people have deduced that. Only sheeple believe the various governments', WHO and CDC lies
 

ben jammin

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OK well the prior link you posted was wrong and that Bill passed by voice vote not the tally you mentioned
Try to keep up. I know you derive what you want out of everything you read but here was the gist of my post.

The link first posted was a rebuttal to your absurd claim that hospitals were inflating covid DEATHS to receive monetary gain. It did, however, support your claim that such extra monies did exist and were paid for each covid patient being TREATED. The $38,000 was also a national average, with states hard-hit like NY receiving an avg of $3000 per patient and those less hit (Wisconsin for example) received as much as $300,000 per patient. Knowing you, and assuming you wouldn't take time to read this rebuttal, I posted the other link at the end of my post, which was the link to the CARES act that allowed and funded these monies.
 

william webster

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A modeler admits he only models BAD Covid outcomes (while ignoring good outcomes) to support lockdown policies and restrictions.
Read the conversation in the screenshot.

Un-freaking-believable.
Basically, Covid graphs and models don't mean sh!t, they just follow an agenda.


Not quite accurate - I read the article

The models are asked to show the worst possible scenario - not the most likely
Plan for the worst....that's how the various gov't's seem to make their decisions to avoid getting caught 'flat footed'

They're not trying to deliberately mislead anybody
 

chico bill

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Try to keep up. I know you derive what you want out of everything you read but here was the gist of my post.

The link first posted was a rebuttal to your absurd claim that hospitals were inflating covid DEATHS to receive monetary gain. It did, however, support your claim that such extra monies did exist and were paid for each covid patient being TREATED. The $38,000 was also a national average, with states hard-hit like NY receiving an avg of $3000 per patient and those less hit (Wisconsin for example) received as much as $300,000 per patient. Knowing you, and assuming you wouldn't take time to read this rebuttal, I posted the other link at the end of my post, which was the link to the CARES act that allowed and funded these monies.
Review the Medicare reimbursements but showing you the data will do not good - Happy New Year
 

chico bill

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So the CDC (what a joke) wants to kill the cruise industry now too - And after the recent successful opening and visits by cruise ships to Puerto Plata

 

El Hijo de Manolo

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So the CDC (what a joke) wants to kill the cruise industry now too - And after the recent successful opening and visits by cruise ships to Puerto Plata

To be fair, they cancel flights outright. At least to cruise mongers they issued advisories. A flight is generally short relative to a cruise and considerably less folks. It's not just your Legionnaire's cruise anymore!
 

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Please post that link because it, while that was the case a few months ago, the tide has turned now and it is the opposite.
I suspect Omicron won't lead to many hospitalizations except for some very infirm already.

Sorry, I should have been more specific and said ICU, not all counted in the hospital.
Many of the Covid cases counted in the hospital did not go to the hospital because of Covid.








Patrick Brown

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Further, it needs to be noted that over the past week, more than 50% of #COVID19 positive patients at
@OslerHealth
were admitted due to the virus or respiratory illness, while the remainder came to the hospital for other reasons but were also admitted with COVID-19.
 

keepcoming

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Review the Medicare reimbursements but showing you the data will do not good - Happy New Year
But not everyone is Medicare. There is a huge difference between what Medicare pays based on a DRG and what Commerical insurances pay on a contracted rate / adjustment. Unfortunately many sites base "price" on Medicare reimbursement which is clearly not always the case. I have seen the numbers and honestly I doubt them all. Payment or not, my main concern is the extra protection (booster) worth it here in DR.
 
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