Should DR buy Puerto Rico?

[windeguy]

They are all referring to sovereign states, as in independent countries. PR is a country, just not independent.

PR is not a country, independent or otherwise.

Puerto Rico is not an independent country, but an unincorporated US territory. In fact, the island has never been an independent nation. It was originally inhabited by the Indigenous Taíno people who greeted Christopher Columbus when he made landfall on the island in 1493. Shortly thereafter, the island became a Spanish colony.

Is Puerto Rico A Country?

Puerto Rico is a commonwealth in free association with the United States. In the territory, there is an intense debate over the island’s future.

www.worldatlas.com

Why do a few people still think Puerto Rico is a country?

 

[El Hijo de Manolo]

Community Note:
Bored old men just say sh— all the time.

Puerto Rico is classified as an unincorporated territory of the United States

Officially known as the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, it has a degree of self-governance, with its own constitution, elected governor, and legislative assembly. However, it is not a state of the U.S., and its residents do not have full voting representation in Congress.

U.S. Territory: Since 1898, when the U.S. acquired Puerto Rico from Spain following the Spanish-American War, it has been under U.S. jurisdiction. This means U.S. federal laws apply, Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, but they cannot vote in U.S. presidential elections unless they reside in one of the 50 states or Washington D.C.

Geopolitical Classification:

Unincorporated Territory: This status means that not all parts of the U.S. Constitution fully apply to Puerto Rico. The U.S. Congress has plenary power over the territory, which can override local laws.

Not a Sovereign Country: Puerto Rico is not an independent nation. It does not have sovereignty in international law, meaning it cannot conduct its own foreign policy or enter into treaties.

Commonwealth vs. State debate:

Statehood: Advocates for statehood argue for equal representation and rights within the U.S. political system.

Independence: A smaller group supports full independence, seeking national sovereignty.

Free Association: Another option discussed is a form of association where Puerto Rico would be independent but maintain a close relationship with the U.S., similar to certain Pacific Island nations.

 

[NALs]

It’s in Spanish, but this Puerto Rican historian explains why Puerto Rico is a country as a response to someone that said it isn’t. It seem the one thing that bothered the Historian the most was the erroneous belief repeated by that other guy that Puerto Rico isn’t a country.

6:46

Certainly, as he explains a simple search of the definition of the word país (country) in the RAE it says:

País
2. m. Territorio, con características geográficas y culturales propias, que puede constituir una entidad política dentro de un Estado. Sociedad matritense de amigos del país.

Country
2. m. A territory with its own geographic and cultural characteristics that is politically constituted within another state.

país | Diccionario de la lengua española

1. m. Territorio constituido en Estado soberano. 2. m. Territorio, con características geográficas y culturales propias, que puede constituir una entidad política dentro de un Estado. Sociedad matritense de amigos del país.

dle.rae.es

 

[jd426]

It’s in Spanish, but this Puerto Rican historian explains why Puerto Rico is a country as a response to someone that said it isn’t. It seem the one thing that bothered the Historian the most was the erroneous belief repeated by that other guy that Puerto Rico isn’t a country.

6:46

Certainly, as he explains a simple search of the definition of the word país (country) in the RAE it says:

País
2. m. Territorio, con características geográficas y culturales propias, que puede constituir una entidad política dentro de un Estado. Sociedad matritense de amigos del país.

Country
2. m. A territory with its own geographic and cultural characteristics that is politically constituted within another state.

país | Diccionario de la lengua española

1. m. Territorio constituido en Estado soberano. 2. m. Territorio, con características geográficas y culturales propias, que puede constituir una entidad política dentro de un Estado. Sociedad matritense de amigos del país.

dle.rae.es

Puerto Rico: A U.S. Territory in Crisis

The Caribbean island, which shares a close yet fraught relationship with the U.S. mainland, faces a multilayered economic and social crisis rooted in long-standing policy and compounded by natural di…

www.cfr.org

This explains it a LOT better ..

Not sure what lame point you are trying to make just to try to take a shot .
Its a US Territory.. its Inhabitants are US Citizens since 1917 .

If it were its own "Country", why would they be considered US Citizens ?

 

[NALs]

Puerto Rico: A U.S. Territory in Crisis

The Caribbean island, which shares a close yet fraught relationship with the U.S. mainland, faces a multilayered economic and social crisis rooted in long-standing policy and compounded by natural di…

www.cfr.org

This explains it a LOT better ..

Not sure what lame point you are trying to make just to try to take a shot .
Its a US Territory.. its Inhabitants are US Citizens since 1917 .

If it were its own "Country", why would they be considered US Citizens ?

You mean US Citizens aren’t born in many countries around the world?

I suggest you contact the RAE and let them know they are wrong.

 

[jd426]

You mean US Citizens aren’t born in many countries around the world?

I suggest you contact the RAE and let them know they are wrong.

Im still trying to figure out what point you are trying to make

Its a US Territory .. EVERYONE Born on THE ISLAND is automatically a US Citizen , since 1917
Has nothing to do with who their Parents are .

what part of that is Unclear to you?

 

[NALs]

Im still trying to figure out what point you are trying to make

My point is that it doesn’t matter how many times some peoplesay in a forum Puerto Rico isn’t a country, it is one when they are done typing that post as it was before they started.

Its a US Territory .. EVERYONE Born on THE ISLAND is automatically a US Citizen , since 1917
Has nothing to do with who their Parents are .

what part of that is Unclear to you?

What part of many US citizens are born in other countries do you not understand?

 

[jd426]

My point is that it doesn’t matter how many times some peoplesay in a forum Puerto Rico isn’t a country, it is one when they are done typing that post as it was before they started.

What part of many US citizens are born in other countries do you not understand?

You cant possibly be that Obtuse ..

 

[keepcoming]

People born in Puerto Rico are US citizens, and yes someone can be born in another country and be considered a US citizen. I think we are all clear on that.

 

[jaguar86]

I asked ChatGPT. This is it's answer
"No, Puerto Rico is not a country. It is an unincorporated territory of the United States with self-governing status. While it has its own constitution and government, the U.S. federal government retains control over key areas like defense, currency, and international relations. Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, but the island is not a state and has limited representation in Congress.

Puerto Rico has its own flag because it has a distinct national identity, history, and culture, even though it is a U.S. territory. Many territories, states, and regions around the world have their own flags to represent their people and heritage."

 

[Notengo]

We can now discuss whether ChatGPT is based on fake information or invite people of the PR forum to participate. Both will be fun.

 

[El Hijo de Manolo]

They're not sending their best

 

[windeguy]

My point is that it doesn’t matter how many times some peoplesay in a forum Puerto Rico isn’t a country, it is one when they are done typing that post as it was before they started.

What part of many US citizens are born in other countries do you not understand?

PR is NOT a country.

 

[windeguy]

I asked ChatGPT. This is it's answer
"No, Puerto Rico is not a country. It is an unincorporated territory of the United States with self-governing status. While it has its own constitution and government, the U.S. federal government retains control over key areas like defense, currency, and international relations. Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens, but the island is not a state and has limited representation in Congress.

Puerto Rico has its own flag because it has a distinct national identity, history, and culture, even though it is a U.S. territory. Many territories, states, and regions around the world have their own flags to represent their people and heritage."

Thank the gods for the correct analysis of why PR is NOT a country.

 

[keepcoming]

We are not going to go back on forth on whether PR is a country or not. That point has already been made by several posters.

 

[windeguy]

Well, the DR isn't buying any territory from the USA anytime soon, let alone the disaster that is PR.

 

[windeguy]

The DR's dumb idea of selling PR power is a losing proposition.

 

[pinonuevo]

Taking a point from a playbook of the next POTUS. Comical isn't it. People love their "What If" scenarios,

Bad enough the DR is planning to sell electricity to PR when it can't keep the lights on 24/7 here.

50% of the people in the DR steal Electricity that is why the Electric company turn their lights off, the will not supply at a Loss.
They have excess capacity and still turn the deadbeat's electricity off. Sadly some people that pay become victims.

 

[windeguy]

50% of the people in the DR steal Electricity that is why the Electric company turn their lights off, the will not supply at a Loss.
They have excess capacity and still turn the deadbeat's electricity off. Sadly some people that pay become victims.

If the remaining 50% paid they could probably pay what PR is worth with that money. About a Buck Thirty-five.
Don't get me going on the EDEs.. Please don't sell them juice...