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The Cibao old families & Geneology
My maiden name is Cruz, not to prominent. but my ancestors are Jaquez, checo and de la caba. You are correct my family
looks European, but its because they married their relatives, usually cousins and second cousins. Its crazy you should see my family tree a little scary
looks European, but its because they married their relatives, usually cousins and second cousins. Its crazy you should see my family tree a little scary
That’s the case in most Dominican families, the product of living in relatively isolated areas for centuries. The country didn’t really filled up with people until the second half of the 20th Century, and that is also the same time people started to move around. Until then, most people spent their entire lives probably within a 50 km radius from where they were born.yosi27 said:
People practically married their neighbors and in most places, most of the people from those areas are related.
Also, many areas, especially in the Central Cibao and mountainous regions, were predominantly light skin and white until a few decades ago when people from other parts of the country began to move to those areas.
This is also the reason in areas such as Moca many darker people still have parents or even grandparents that are white, as a visual testament of the recent population changes and the adoption of the new comers by the already established population. There are some regions of the Cibao where most of the white people are elderly with their grandchildren and the rest of the newer generation usually are much darker or a kaleidoscope of colors.
Gurabo, I was able to find 331 family members, Cabrera, Taveras (Tavera), and Alba, but I may wish to acquire the services of your friend in the instituto de genealogia Dominicano. If you can help me to obtain his or her email address it will be greatly appreciated.
Nothing new for me, I have cousins who sign same second name twice Carlos Taveras Taveras... El campo where my family is from Estancia Nueva Moca used to be same like you ancestors city.
There is a myth about this in my family... they say this is the reason for so many crazy people in this town!
Not any more!
JJ
I?m sorry bachata, I was a little tired when I wrote the last post. As I can see a little confusing. I was just stating that they do check if a couple that is marrying are related. See example below.
Parentesco en Tercer grado = a cousin is about the same, in this case they have different second names but they may be cousins as well...
Primo primero = Primos hermanos
Primo segundos = the sons of your Primo Hermano and primo tercero, some one in your family line with your given name...
That's why all Dominicans are primos.
We have a given name in common = Taveras So we are primos...
jaja
JJ
Primo primero = Primos hermanos
Primo segundos = the sons of your Primo Hermano and primo tercero, some one in your family line with your given name...
That's why all Dominicans are primos.
We have a given name in common = Taveras So we are primos...
jaja
JJ
My Family have been in Moca for several generations but my grandfather said when they first came from Spain the old people settled in the central cibao mountains areas, Taveras which I believe is a section or your family town...
Yes we came from Europe...
Espana is the Mother land of Dominican Republic.
JJ
Yes we came from Europe...
Espana is the Mother land of Dominican Republic.
JJ
My wife's great grandfather Abraham Mieses came to La Vega from Spain , but he was only a couple of generations Spanish, originally from Poland.
Chellow, I will email, just give me the name of the ancestor you want me to ask him about, though the guy is an expert on the families of Gurabo, so let's hope that he can find something. Also, here's the fb link to the Instituto de genalogia Dominica , message them, the guy who's in charge of the page is really nice, and he might give you the email of a genealogist that's an expert on your town's genealogy and families.
Yeah, though that's on the low end, most Dominicans tested are around 10% Native American.
My grandfather Gilberto Olivares Bencosme, was given a scholarship by the government to study aviation(under Trujillo,yup, you know where this is going). After he completed his studies and graduated as a commercial aviator, he couldn't get a job to fly in DR(most likely due to his last name). Dude, he actually WAITED for Trujillo to show up in Moca and stood in the front of Trujillo's caravan as it approached and held up his hand for them to stop. As security lifted their weapons,Trujillo signaled them to lower weapons and was ok to stop and to let my grandfather talk to him. He got a pilot job after that!
Talk about balls! and that was only one of the ballsy things he had done!
Very interesting story chrisrose97, the histories of families like the Bencosme are truly fascinating to me, heck the history of that family and others could be turned into a good book, or even movie scrip. when I was a little kid I heard a story of a very brave pilot during Trujillo's regime, can't really remember his name, but I think he was also from Moca. Anyways, according to the story, the guy was sent into a mission close to Cuba where he was shot down, during his imprisonment in Cuba, he gained the trust of the the Cubans by making a crazy stunt during an air show, and one day he took a Cuban plane and flew it all the way to DR. The story sounds like a myth, since that era is filled with them, and I've never really read anything about it.
Hi Gurabo, thanks for the response!
This was in the era of bi-planes. Gilberto was actually the first commercial dominican aviator(though there were very few military aviators chosen by the Trujillos before him). I think he had balls just to fly one of those things. I don't think there wereany other pilots in Moca of that time. Haven't heard the story about the guy who escaped Cuba, but I'll ask my folks...
I actually found Gilberto's name in a manifest from Santo Domingo to Puerto Rico when he went to flight school in Nebraskaon ancestry.com, he left by ship! I don't know why he came back, he should have known that the Trujillos would limit his pilot work in the country, just because of his last names and maybe with rumors made up by the calies...
I have another story for you....Gilberto's brother, Luis Manuel(who could have been his twin, they were identical), was a doctor in Moca who had to move to Sabaneta de Yasica just to be far away from Trujillo and anything related. Many years after Trujillo was gone, somebody who was police related, told him that even over there Trujillo had sent spies to watch him. They would get under his house(they were on stilts, he told me this) and listen to all there conversations from time to time! But since they NEVER were involved in anything, never got in "trouble". Funny thing is, THEN he got scared when they told him! (whoo, that was close!)
And Luis would visit Moca, and show up to friend's houses and say in a loud voice, "who's that monkey you got on your wall??!" (It was Trujillos picture!). Just to scare his friends, he really wasn't scared at that time.
I could keep going....!
Hi Gurabo, thanks for the response!
This was in the era of bi-planes. Gilberto was actually the first commercial dominican aviator(though there were very few military aviators chosen by the Trujillos before him). I think he had balls just to fly one of those things. I don't think there wereany other pilots in Moca of that time. Haven't heard the story about the guy who escaped Cuba, but I'll ask my folks...
I actually found Gilberto's name in a manifest from Santo Domingo to Puerto Rico when he went to flight school in Nebraskaon ancestry.com, he left by ship! I don't know why he came back, he should have known that the Trujillos would limit his pilot work in the country, just because of his last names and maybe with rumors made up by the calies...
I have another story for you....Gilberto's brother, Luis Manuel(who could have been his twin, they were identical), was a doctor in Moca who had to move to Sabaneta de Yasica just to be far away from Trujillo and anything related. Many years after Trujillo was gone, somebody who was police related, told him that even over there Trujillo had sent spies to watch him. They would get under his house(they were on stilts, he told me this) and listen to all there conversations from time to time! But since they NEVER were involved in anything, never got in "trouble". Funny thing is, THEN he got scared when they told him! (whoo, that was close!)
And Luis would visit Moca, and show up to friend's houses and say in a loud voice, "who's that monkey you got on your wall??!" (It was Trujillos picture!). Just to scare his friends, he really wasn't scared at that time.
I could keep going....!