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Time To Move The Bars And Girls From Pedro Clisante
What I can't understand is why so many people are opposed to two or maybe
three city blocks being told they, along with the (not exactly quality crowds) that
they need to take it a few more blocks down the street, which is very generous
in my opinion/ previous experiences living in developing countries.
Anyone who's owned, rented or operated a business in and around Sosua's center
has been well aware these changes have been coming for several years, if not a
decade or more. They've had plenty of time to milk the cow. Smart one's like Bourbon
Street (never too far away from home) with others moved first and certainly
benefit the most from their decisions.
Sosua has a lot of potential if they apply smart zoning in order to cater to a certain
demographic. They would also need to make the necessary infrastructure upgrades
and limit the amount of criminals running the streets on motorbikes like Abel has done
here in Santiago. Sosua is a very small town and these simple changes can easily be
achieved if they decide that's what they want going forward.
My attitude about the bars/ clubs and people who frequent them on PC has changed
and for good reason. Every single time I have been up there during the last three years
I've left thinking to myself, what a sh*thole the town has become and I can not wait for
them to clear out the garbage.
three city blocks being told they, along with the (not exactly quality crowds) that
they need to take it a few more blocks down the street, which is very generous
in my opinion/ previous experiences living in developing countries.
Anyone who's owned, rented or operated a business in and around Sosua's center
has been well aware these changes have been coming for several years, if not a
decade or more. They've had plenty of time to milk the cow. Smart one's like Bourbon
Street (never too far away from home) with others moved first and certainly
benefit the most from their decisions.
Sosua has a lot of potential if they apply smart zoning in order to cater to a certain
demographic. They would also need to make the necessary infrastructure upgrades
and limit the amount of criminals running the streets on motorbikes like Abel has done
here in Santiago. Sosua is a very small town and these simple changes can easily be
achieved if they decide that's what they want going forward.
My attitude about the bars/ clubs and people who frequent them on PC has changed
and for good reason. Every single time I have been up there during the last three years
I've left thinking to myself, what a sh*thole the town has become and I can not wait for
them to clear out the garbage.
I think some above posts were spot on. The clientele and providers changed.
Year ago it was Dominican girls, smartly dressed, many very attractive and mostly European and North American clients.
Now it seems most of the providers are overweight, out of shape, most Haitian and poorly dressed and the partakers are older North East American men who travel in groups of 3 or more, many overweight & boisterous (if not loud), chomping on fat cigars and acting like they have discovered Shangri-La - and as a result most of the prior Johns gave up on Sosua as no more now than a seedy hooker strip.
Not saying it's really worse but the vibe and cast of the providers and partakers has morphed.
Could be it's like Merle Haggard asked "Are we rolling downhill like a snowball headed for hell........"
Year ago it was Dominican girls, smartly dressed, many very attractive and mostly European and North American clients.
Now it seems most of the providers are overweight, out of shape, most Haitian and poorly dressed and the partakers are older North East American men who travel in groups of 3 or more, many overweight & boisterous (if not loud), chomping on fat cigars and acting like they have discovered Shangri-La - and as a result most of the prior Johns gave up on Sosua as no more now than a seedy hooker strip.
Not saying it's really worse but the vibe and cast of the providers and partakers has morphed.
Could be it's like Merle Haggard asked "Are we rolling downhill like a snowball headed for hell........"
Where do you think most of the clients come from these days?
Their behaviour is the problem.
Has absolutely nothing to do with
their nationality or the way they look.
You are a guest playboy.
So act like it.
Has absolutely nothing to do with
their nationality or the way they look.
You are a guest playboy.
So act like it.
You forgot the part about....You wished a buck was still silver...........
It has everything to do with nationality and the way they look.
I could tell stories of the goings on in Sosua and the beach 10 years or more ago...things the would make your jaw drop.
The demographics have changes but the boorishness has not. Remember, Sosua was referred to as the wild west...there is a reason it had(has) the nickname Sosewer when I first visited way back in 2001. (Remembering High Caribbean and Moby Dick)
The thing that has really changed is the desire to post videos of what was a quiet hobby!
There were no Youtube Videos in 2001 about the goings on in Sosua .. and definitely no Balling Videos open for the whole world to see, and then there was ONE guy with literally MILLIONS of Views who made a “ Documentary” about the Girls in Sosua . If you want to blame anyone , blame HIM and dudes like him..
And lets not forget Morons like Cuba Dave as well of course ….its not about demographics , its about Stupidity .
High Caribbean was a pretty nice club back then and spandex hadn't yet become popular.
And cellulite wasn't considered a fashion statement
Great thing about High Caribbean was you could just go chill at the bars at the outside patio when you wanted to get away from the noise.
This is very true. But.
I remember back in the day a fella standing in the middle of PC peeing, he was not wearing a shirt or shoes, he was dragged off by the cops....I remember gentlemen having sex with girls right on the beach...it's only the tip of the iceberg of what was happening in Sosua back in the day. Not to mention the shootings right in the center of the action. The current Sosua is very tame towards what was happening...you might even say it is boring.
I remember those days.
Many locals were not happy with that behaviour then and many are not happy with it now.
No society is happy with a scene like that out in the open. But most countries/cities have it legal or illegal. Sosua is not a big city but a relatively big tourist area. I think tourism developed and the economy in general grew. Basically the establishments on Pedro C got priced out. So only natural to move the area.
Haven't lived in Charamicos since beginning of 2014 but
I do spend time in Sosua as I have many friends both Dominican
and Gringos who live there. Not much has changed beyond the
obvious since I left and not that I care but I doubt people have stopped having
sex on the beach either.
All I know is, I started visiting in 2001, lived in Sosua from 2012 to 2016...over that time Sosua had become increasingly more boring and much less outrageous during those years.