YES Most Men Are DOGS, So Why Can't You Live Without US?.

[miguel]

El diablo y que es esto......

Why are women simply reduce the men to a level of dogs? Here is a perfect example of north american men, kneeling to their masters, the women. They say you are dogs and you go woof woof. they say, roll and you roll. now they are talking about training us and putting a leash around our collars. No wonder women from north america come here to go out with slimy cheap hotel workers. thats because you guys have become sissies. Go wash dishes in the kitchen while your women work in wall street.
Now if men are dogs then what makes a women who gives them birth, a bitch?

this is what we get after fighting so many battles for them, bleeding and dying in millions. Giving them security from invaders for centuries, the inventions we have made to give them comfort in life, the advancement in medicine to give them health, the cars we have invented to drive them to long distances even airplanes the show them countries all over the globe. We have invented almost everything even your makeup and clothes you wear. So how do you all thank us? You call us dogs or at least program sissies like miguel to agree with your agenda.
I protest for letting god waste a manhood on miguel. We should all chip in and let him have his way of life, by paying for his sex change operation. so he will not be labeled a dog. hahahahaha, hehehehe, me so funny.

So remember women, who is your papi in the end of the day?
Now all of you women go to beauty salon and become prettier for your men who will be coming home shortly from a hard day's work. Cook him dinner and massage his feet. There is no bigger pleasure than serving your man. The rest is not all that important.
AZB

Is it fair to say you don't "donate" to the "Women Liberation's Funds?". Wahahahahaha!.

All we are trying to say is that there are many women out there complaining about us being DOGGIES (and MOST of us are), yet not being able to live without us.

Then we started giving them pointers on how to train a DOGGIE if in fact they wanted to settle down with a good one (or even it they just want to have "fun" with one, or two, or three.....).

All we (or at least I) are saying is that there's no need to be complaining so much when we can be trained so EASILY!!!.

Anyways, my brotha, THE CAVEMAN, that's one of the things we are trying to do here.

"My brother, THE CAVEMAN", now, THAT'S FUNNY, hahahahahahahaha!!,

AZB For the vacant "Women Liberation's" Presidency!!!!. Wahahahahahahaha!!.

 

[miguel]

Lo dire otra vez.....

I know what you mean, Miguel. That wonderful "TOOL" is what got me. At first, I could "use it" all I wanted. But after a time, when I needed it, and she wouldn't "lend it", I had to do all kinds of stuff, I normally wouldn't have done under any circumstances, to be able to use it.
Today is like: build me a closet. fix this or that, drive here and there, cook me carne guisada, etc, etc, never ending. And all because of that tasty "tool" I can't live without!
So you see, ladies, we men can be "trained". It's just a matter of how that blessed tool of yours is manipulated... Alas!

If only they knew, Don Juan, if only they knew....

I said it before and I will say it again:

If they ALLLLLLL knew how to use that "TOOL", the divorce rate would be non-existent, hahahahahahahaha!!.

Le me give you girls some "Powers Of The TOOL" examples:

Wars have been started because of the "TOOL",
Married men have started hunger strikes because of the "TOOL",
We get on airplanes to get some "TOOL",
We take vacations to get some "TOOL",
We spend money we don't have to get some "TOOL",
We kill people to get some "TOOL",
We make believe we are different to get some "TOOL",
We bribe people to get some "TOOL",
We will travel ANYWHERE in the world to get some "TOOL",
We will take boats, planes, walk on foot for miles to get some "TOOL"........

Bottom line, we WILL do ANYTHING in our power to get that "TOOL"!!!.

Your only job is to make us earn it, make us work for it, make us beg, make us suffer.......

When it comes to guys, EVERTHING revolves around the "TOOL", even if the nicest man alive or the worse piece of shyt that was ever born!!.

I am willing to say that ALL INVENTIONS were invented because of the "TOOL", hahahahahahahahhaha!!. Just kidding. Or am I?. Hahaha.

Learn how to use it darlings, learn how to use it!!.

 

[AZB]

Come on now...that's a little harsh.

Have you ever enlisted? Have you ever joined the "fight"? I think we are all very thankful for what has happened and all the advances we have made but do not for one second confuse those men who have contributed with "Dogs of today!".

Most of the dogs being talked about have made no contributions to society except for helping to mess up the females of today's minds!

So I guess you have enlisted in the military and had saved your country from invaders. Maybe you have contributed in designing the cockpit of new airbus 380? Is that why you reserve the right to call men dogs?
My dear, you are neither a doctor, a surgeon, senator, congress woman, engineer, lawyer or anything important. You maybe only an expert in getting fat and putting down men. Is this all qualifies you to insult men?

Now about myself: I am a self proclaimed inventor of many important procedures. I guess you haven't been following my ghetto invention threads. Go back and do a research to see what a great inventor I am of my time.
Now woman, kneel before my wisdom.
AZB

 

[El_Uruguayo]

"I am willing to say that ALL INVENTIONS were invented because of the "TOOL", hahahahahahahahhaha!!. Just kidding. Or am I?. Hahaha.

Reminds me of a comedy bit I heard, about how they stumbled on the effects of Viagra try to make a medicine for a different condition. The guy was going off about how they stumbled across all other medicines trying to achieve the effects of viagra!

Is the future of medicine doomed?

And do women dig ghetto inventions? I have a few myself.

 

[Alyonka]

It is funny how men project their own emotions on us, women. Most girls have no idea of any kind of tools and don't even know how to use them. All they want a man for is to have babies. They think of a man - good father or a bad father - that is all that matters.

 

[M.A.R.]

Basically, the one that is a challenge to us. That's the one we want.

She never gave an inch and it was pure torture.

She made it very clear that if I wanted to be with her that I needed to change my ways.

Little by little, I changed my ways. I had to, if I wanted to be with her.

After I got to know her, I understood why she was the way she was, an amazing woman. Simply put: AN AMAZING WOMAN!!.

After I got to know her, I couldn't get enough of her. All of a sudden, I didn't want to be with anybody else, I didn't want to spend time with anybody else, I didn't want to go out with anybody else.

To this day, when we speak on the phone, she reminds me of being the one "who made you a human being", hahahahaha!.

You see????? So you didn't change for long......even if you guys find AN AMAZING WOMAN, you go ahead and screw it up, and you are left to wander the streets looking for crumbs.

 

[miguel]

Me lo dices......

Viagra

And do women dig ghetto inventions? I have a few myself.

Since you mentioned Viagra and my brotha mentioned some man-made inventions, well, who do you think came up with the Viagra invention:

A MAN WHO COULDN'T SATISFY HIS WOMAN!!. Hahahahahaha.

Think about it, these people told each other:

"Darn it, we last no more than 1 minute with a woman, we need to come up with something to that will make us last much more".

Soon after, ALLLLL "1 minute men's" problems well solved!!!. Wahahahahahahahaha!!.

 

[Alyonka]

It looks like men can change if a woman knows how to play it right. The question is "why do we want them: changed or not changed? what are our reasons for being with them." I guess different people would answer differently. I have known women who would only be with a man for marriage and children - no other reasons can be used, no love, bf, etc. It is the way they are brought up. But there are also women who want more than that - they want partnership of some sort. All I personally want - is not being lied to and taken for granted because I get very confused if my partner does it. I start thinking that he does not care about me. Is that difficult for a Dominican or any other man to do? It looks like deception is part of Dominican men culture. That is the way they think they should behave. The problem with this is that a lot of girls like myself get scared of such behavior. It is just does not seem to be normal. And a lot of them start also lying to the man. Man gets angry because he does not want to be lied to and it causes trouble. I think people should treat others the way they want to be treated themselves and it would solve their own issues.

 

[miguel]

Como, que, cuando, adonde, ay papa'?.

You see????? So you didn't change for long......even if you guys find AN AMAZING WOMAN, you go ahead and screw it up, and you are left to wander the streets looking for crumbs.

No, no, no.....You are assuming.

Nowhere in that post does it say that I changed back to being a DOGGIE.

There was no "screwing up" and no "wander the streets looking for crumbs".

Not at all!.

 

[M.A.R.]

No, no, no.....You are assuming.

Nowhere in that post does it say that I changed back to being a DOGGIE.

There was no "screwing up" and no "wander the streets looking for crumbs".

Not at all!.

no no no I didn't mean that YOU specifically went looking for crumbs, but that's what happens when men don't value what they have and act like DOGGIES and lose the AMAZING WOMAN they had.

That's why there are so many AMAZING WOMEN who rather stay single than get involved with someone who's not gonna value them. Right Ladies????

Alyonka: Yes there is something about Dominican men not taking things seriously, they act like big kids, irresponsible and childish. They don't want to make an effort when pursuing a lady, they want things easy, that's been my experience lately and these are men in their 30's and 40's.

 

[miguel]

Conocelo primero......

The question is "why do we want them: changed or not changed? what are our reasons for being with them." I guess different people would answer differently. I have known women who would only be with a man for marriage and children - no other reasons can be used, no love, bf, etc. It is the way they are brought up. But there are also women who want more than that - they want partnership of some sort. All I personally want - is not being lied to and taken for granted because I get very confused if my partner does it. I start thinking that he does not care about me. Is that difficult for a Dominican or any other man to do? It looks like deception is part of Dominican men culture. That is the way they think they should behave. The problem with this is that a lot of girls like myself get scared of such behavior. It is just does not seem to be normal. And a lot of them start also lying to the man. Man gets angry because he does not want to be lied to and it causes trouble. I think people should treat others the way they want to be treated themselves and it would solve their own issues.

Ever heard of "Demand respect and you will get it".

Ever heard of "Lie to me once, shame on you, lie to me twice, shame on me, lie to me three times and I am here for you to lie to me any time you want?".

One of the big issues that I think MOST women have is that they "try to change the world".

MOST think that MOST men need to be saved. Then they start "mothering" us.

MOST men act the way they act because YOU girls let us get away with just about anything.

I guess it's the "motherly" instinct in MOST women.

If we are lonely, they want to save us,
If we are lost, they want to save us,
If we are poor, they want to save us,
If we are sankie, we are different and they want to save us,
If we can't support ourselves, they want to save us,
If we are wife-beaters, they want to save us,
If we are thieves, they want to save us,
If we are drug users, they want to save us,
If we can't pay our bills, they want to save us,
If we are the biggest axxholes alive, they want to save us,
If we are bad parents, bad sons, bad people, they want to save us,.......

And in MOST of the above cases, the person they are trying to save, they know nothing about. They could be guys that they are just beginning to get to know.

I keep on telling you girls that life is NOT as hard as some of you think it is.

The problem with SOME of you girls is that you DON'T learn from your mistakes!. Plain and simple!.

Common sense says that if a guy got in your pants right way and then changed for the worse, then you should know that you should take your time getting to know the next one so the same thing doesn't happen again.

But NOOOOOO, SOME of you keep on making the same mistakes over and over again and then end up blaming the DOGGIES for it!.

GUYS CAN be read from 3 miles away!!.

And if they are Dominicans, from 10 miles away, wahahahahahahahaha!!.

 

[Don Juan]

Cats and dogs.

A relationship between two people that combines unconditional love, understanding, support;--financial, moral, spiritual--, consideration, mutual sexual fulfillment, like-minded in future goals, sharing of responsibilities and obligations, trust, and most importantly: respect for one another. Can't fail.
Of course, a relationship that embodies all these attributes is hard to find.
invariably, most will lack some and nearly all will accentuate one over the other.

The trick here is communication. since men and women have different needs and priorities, understanding what's important for each and fulfilling it is the key to marital happiness.
Once trust, respect and mutual dependence is established, that bond will never be broken.

We need to recognise each others faults and flaws then proceed to either accept them or reject them. if you choose acceptance, marry him/her. If not, look somewhere else because once a dog, always a dog/bitch.

 

[Don Juan]

Is that all there is?

It is funny how men project their own emotions on us, women. Most girls have no idea of any kind of tools and don't even know how to use them. All they want a man for is to have babies. They think of a man - good father or a bad father - that is all that matters.

Is that what you want a man for? To have babies with? Is that what we're here for? To be sperm donors?

You can't be serious!

And what is your assessment of a "good" or "bad" father?

Is that the way you personally think it should be?

And is that the general consensus among women where you're from?

 

[Alyonka]

Is that what you want a man for? To have babies with? Is that what we're here for? To be sperm donors?

You can't be serious!

And what is your assessment of a "good" or "bad" father?

Is that the way you personally think it should be?

And is that the general consensus among women where you're from?

:laugh: of course I was joking. There is no consensus among any kind of women. It is just strange for me to read how men on this site generalize about women. We are all different. Just the same way as men are.

 

[Alyonka]

The problem with SOME of you girls is that you DON'T learn from your mistakes!. Plain and simple!.

Common sense says that if a guy got in your pants right way and then changed for the worse, then you should know that you should take your time getting to know the next one so the same thing doesn't happen again.

But NOOOOOO, SOME of you keep on making the same mistakes over and over again and then end up blaming the DOGGIES for it!.

GUYS CAN be read from 3 miles away!!.

And if they are Dominicans, from 10 miles away, wahahahahahahahaha!!.

They don't really change. They are what they are you are right. It is just some of us (I am an example) keep on finding men who are like our own fathers. Mine was exactly that - handsome and very good dancer in addition but one of the worst kinds of players - very deceptive and abusive to the point of being violent. So, somehow I manage to find men like him and then get scared of what to expect from them and run away. It is totally weired but I have to learn how to be with a normal person.

 

[Don Juan]

You were "just joking"? And what do you mean by: "I have to learn how to be with a normal person"?

 

[Alyonka]

You were "just joking"? And what do you mean by: "I have to learn how to be with a normal person"?

Well, this is what I learned in a parenting class I took - that girls who are capable of being with players usually have their own problems, like if their father was a player - they are sort of looking for the same type of a person who stresses them out. Because some women would not even think of being with someone like that. They run away from them as soon as a guy refuses to give them his home address and phone number and would talk to every friend of his and anyone who knows him before even considering going out with a guy to make sure he is reliable and stable. People like me accept others for who they are and never ask anyone else any kind of questions about that person and even ignore what others tell us about them because we want to form our own opinion. A lot of girls I know would not do that. They rely on their parents, family, friends, etc. to approve of their selections.

 

[miguel]

Ajaaaa, te agarre'

no no no I didn't mean that YOU specifically went looking for crumbs, but that's what happens when men don't value what they have and act like DOGGIES and lose the AMAZING WOMAN they had.

That's why there are so many AMAZING WOMEN who rather stay single than get involved with someone who's not gonna value them. Right Ladies????

Alyonka: Yes there is something about Dominican men not taking things seriously, they act like big kids, irresponsible and childish. They don't want to make an effort when pursuing a lady, they want things easy, that's been my experience lately and these are men in their 30's and 40's.

So you didn't mean "went looking for crumbs" BUT meant that I "screw it up?". No te apures, yo te agorro, wahahahahahahahahaha!!.

That's all I have been saying all along, there are many AMAZING WOMEN out there that are willing to train us DOGGIES.

But even if AMAZING, some still don't know how to use "it" to their advantage.

The "there's something about Dominican men not taking things seriously" comment it's something that I have said here over and over.

MOST Dominicans are raised to be the way they are!!.

They are "mamied" by their mothers.

They are raised the SAME exact way their father made their mothers treat them (the fathers).

How many homes (when the father left or is absent) in the DR are run NOT by the mother, but my the male members of the household, EVEN IF THEY DON'T LIVE THERE ANYMORE, MOST.

EVERYTHING is handed to them. They are treated like royalty.

They are the "man of the house".

Their opinions is what counts.

What they say goes.

My friend, Ramon, cousin says that: "Aqui, cuando falta el papa', los Mayimbes son los varones".

So there is goes, some of you girls are dealing with guy who think that they are the "ones and only" and that they can do whatever they want.

Raised that way, btw, for GENERATIONS!.

That's the reason so many her knows that the DR is run my males. It's in their blood.

They were raised to think that "they are the ones and only ones and that the females are second-hand citizen". Therefore, they think they can do whatever they please. And MOST do!.

 

[marliejaneca]

Amen to that !

How wonderfully said, Don Juan.

I guess I am one of the lucky ones, as I have this type of relationship. It is indeed hard to find, and I had to go through many bad apples to find the right one.

I believe with all my heart that age, experience and the willingness to give and take all combined helped. I thank my lucky stars each and every day for having this love in my life.

I don't believe a relationship is real if a person feels compelled to mould them to their liking, what could possibly have attracted them to each other in the first place?

Most men are dogs????? I don't think so, I just think some woman have a hard time differentiating from a mongrel and a purebred!

Sorry, didn't read the whole thread Miguel, just bits and pieces as you know I am busy, busy, busy, but saw the thread I have quoted and felt the need to respond.

Marlie

A relationship between two people that combines unconditional love, understanding, support;--financial, moral, spiritual--, consideration, mutual sexual fulfillment, like-minded in future goals, sharing of responsibilities and obligations, trust, and most importantly: respect for one another. Can't fail.
Of course, a relationship that embodies all these attributes is hard to find.
invariably, most will lack some and nearly all will accentuate one over the other.

The trick here is communication. since men and women have different needs and priorities, understanding what's important for each and fulfilling it is the key to marital happiness.
Once trust, respect and mutual dependence is established, that bond will never be broken.

We need to recognise each others faults and flaws then proceed to either accept them or reject them. if you choose acceptance, marry him/her. If not, look somewhere else because once a dog, always a dog/bitch.

 

[Alyonka]

How wonderfully said, Don Juan.

I guess I am one of the lucky ones, as I have this type of relationship. It is indeed hard to find, and I had to go through many bad apples to find the right one.


Marlie

Can you tell us more about it? I just love reading success stories - see too many things go wrong around me. Learning about successful ones helps to believe that it is possible to do it right. I agree that classification of men and women does not really help. We are all so different and can also behave in different ways with different people.