DR Considers Outlawing Guns

[ju10prd]

No guns, they would machetes or poison. The issue is the lack of regard for human life, not the method used.

Correct.

For those of us who have lived the campo life in DR it is all too obvious that the machete poses the greatest risk to life. Witness the frequent altercations between machete carrying farmers after a hard days labor, and the chaos that ensues with all manner of person chasing each other around the barrio cutting each other in the process and more, and the thought of gun ownership is a distant memory.

This is a developing society and development of rule of law with greater controls on and without any additional weaponry is the best way forward. The developments of the past few days has clearly been a wake up call to some of the key players and let's hope something comes of all this because security of the population is very high on the political agenda.

 

[xstew]

I am sure the families of Juancito and the PLD supporters shot at the weekend will feel better knowing this.

Carried guns are the issue for DR whether legal or illegal, and not legal gun ownership licensed under the exiting law to protect person, family and property.

Let the Dominicans review and modify their laws to try and address such issues.

I bet Faduls nephue is well armed. he has no fear of AMET.

 

[Virgo]

I am sure the families of Juancito and the PLD supporters shot at the weekend will feel better knowing this.

Carried guns are the issue for DR whether legal or illegal, and not legal gun ownership licensed under the exiting law to protect person, family and property.

Let the Dominicans review and modify their laws to try and address such issues.

First, whatever the gun laws may have said, a person who has reached the state of mind of the killer would either (1) already own a gun (legally or not) and take it with him (legally or not), or (2) get one somehow in order to do what he did (buy it in the black market, "rent it" (there is such a thing), if all else fails make one (yes there are techniques to make improvised weapons, and some can be extremely deadly).

He also could have gone the route of the explosive suicide vest (as often done in the middle East).

Once a person is willing to give his own life, it becomes extremely difficult to stop him.

Something that MIGHT have saved the Mayor would have been weapon control at the buildings entrance...then again, the killer could still have tried to ambush him elsewhere! Again, it is really tough to stop a determined killer, especially when he is willing to give his own life in order to take others. Sad but true.

 

[chrisrose97]

To outlaw guns is a totally stupid proposal, politically fueled!

Guns dont kill people, people kill people. So if enough people are killed by machetes or knives, then those things would be outlawed too?

So they want the pendejo law abiding citizen to give up their guns so that the criminals(including themselves, MOST politicians and judges and police) stay armed??? yeah right!

Look at Cuba, Venezuela and other countries that outlawed guns and see where they are now today...either a communist socialist state...... or look what happened in Paris, I bet if there were some armed civilians on that day, not so many people would have died....

More BS news in the media to keep people from thinking about the real problems in the DR

Sorry about my rant

 

[SantiagoDR]

... unhappy politicos firing off at conventions.

Now you should know darn well that these will be the people that are exempt from not being able to carry, because they will get an exemption.

 

[malko]

To outlaw guns is a totally stupid proposal, politically fueled!

Guns dont kill people, people kill people. So if enough people are killed by machetes or knives, then those things would be outlawed too?

So they want the pendejo law abiding citizen to give up their guns so that the criminals(including themselves, MOST politicians and judges and police) stay armed??? yeah right!

Look at Cuba, Venezuela and other countries that outlawed guns and see where they are now today...either a communist socialist state...... or look what happened in Paris, I bet if there were some armed civilians on that day, not so many people would have died....

More BS news in the media to keep people from thinking about the real problems in the DR

Sorry about my rant

Ok, agreed, so lets do the next sensible thing, and ban the people who are the most susceptible to go crazy and shoot up the neighbourhood from owning guns....... since as you say, guns dont kill, people do.

So article #1 of the new dr gun law,
Never, never should a gun permit be delivered to a US citizen.....

 

[windeguy]

Ok, agreed, so lets do the next sensible thing, and ban the people who are the most susceptible to go crazy and shoot up the neighbourhood from owning guns....... since as you say, guns dont kill, people do.

So article #1 of the new dr gun law,
Never, never should a gun permit be delivered to a US citizen.....

I understand the DR is about to allow many thousands of refugees from worn torn areas of the middle east to relocate to the DR. Part of the deal is that each one will be provided with a 9mm and one thousand rounds of ammunition as they enter the country. Sound good?

 

[the gorgon]

To outlaw guns is a totally stupid proposal, politically fueled!

Guns dont kill people, people kill people. So if enough people are killed by machetes or knives, then those things would be outlawed too?

So they want the pendejo law abiding citizen to give up their guns so that the criminals(including themselves, MOST politicians and judges and police) stay armed??? yeah right!

Look at Cuba, Venezuela and other countries that outlawed guns and see where they are now today...either a communist socialist state...... or look what happened in Paris, I bet if there were some armed civilians on that day, not so many people would have died....

More BS news in the media to keep people from thinking about the real problems in the DR

Sorry about my rant

i must have slept through history class. now i find out that Cuba banned guns, and became communist afterward.

the wonders of reading DR1. you learn something new every day.

 

[wuarhat]

yes, but it is far easier to defend one?s self from a guy with a machete. if you can manage to close the distance between an attacker and yourself, you can render him ineffective, unless he is far bigger and stronger than you are. a gun does not allow for that option.

I wonder what N??ez Pi?a the Claro VP would have to say about that?

I don't believe there is any serious proposal to take all guns from law abiding citizens. What some are proposing more or less seriously is to turn the gun permits into ownership-not-carrying permits. Presumably you could still own a gun. But you couldn't carry it with you. Supposedly you would keep it always at home, for protection against intruders.

This would surely have stopped the recent assassination of Juancito.

 

[the gorgon]

I wonder what N??ez Pi?a the Claro VP would have to say about that?


This would surely have stopped the recent assassination of Juancito.

maybe you can tell us whether or not Nunez was killed by a machete wielding guy.

 

[windeguy]

Let us not lose track that the person who mentioned that a change was needed is named Leonel.
He does not make the laws of this country.

Or does he?


We will see what changes.

 

[Wishing you well]

i must have slept through history class. now i find out that Cuba banned guns, and became communist afterward.

the wonders of reading DR1. you learn something new every day.

Backwards as always (point intended), no, the communist got to the top by the use of guns and once and only then, they banned them.

How nice is that?

Will that be the case of DR?

Only time will tell but this is a LA country and open for it. The closest DR ever got to become communist was early 1960's and didn't work to well for JB.

 

[Meemselle]

Why am I even reading this? As in guns don't kill people? People kill people? Yes. People with guns kill people.

No guns. Ever for anything anyway anyhow. I have stated this before: I had a family member who was shot in a gun accident. A child. And you never, ever recover from that.

Hunt & kill as you see fit. Sickens me. Second Amendment to US constitution completely compromised on this. It never anticipated UZIs on the street. Which is why RBG is the most important Supreme.
Over and out.

 

[bob saunders]

Backwards as always (point intended), no, the communist got to the top by the use of guns and once and only then, they banned them.

How nice is that?

Will that be the case of DR?

Only time will tell but this is a LA country and open for it. The closest DR ever got to become communist was early 1960's and didn't work to well for JB.

Some people are very selective in what they remember from history.

 

[the gorgon]

some people never studied history. those who are selective have the luxury of a bank of knowledge from which to select.

 

[ju10prd]

Let us not lose track that the person who mentioned that a change was needed is named Leonel.
He does not make the laws of this country.

Or does he?


We will see what changes.

Leonel was one of many who made comment.

It is a 50 year old law that needs updating to address the increasing insecurity and violence in DR.

http://www.elcaribe.com.do/2015/12/18/ito-bisono-reitera-necesidad-aprobar-ley-armas

Read what the promoter of the new law is saying before judging. This is not about what USA citizens think it is about what is right for DR.

http://hoy.com.do/grupos-piden-a-presidente-prohibir-tenencia-armas-de-fuego/

Expresaron que el dominicano, ahora mismo no est? en condiciones de portar una arma.


This statement in the second article is perhaps very relevant for DR. Different countries need different solutions.

 

[windeguy]

Leonel was one of many who made comment.

It is a 50 year old law that needs updating to address the increasing insecurity and violence in DR.

http://www.elcaribe.com.do/2015/12/18/ito-bisono-reitera-necesidad-aprobar-ley-armas

Read what the promoter of the new law is saying before judging. This is not about what USA citizens think it is about what is right for DR.

http://hoy.com.do/grupos-piden-a-presidente-prohibir-tenencia-armas-de-fuego/

Expresaron que el dominicano, ahora mismo no est? en condiciones de portar una arma.


This statement in the second article is perhaps very relevant for DR. Different countries need different solutions.

Your opinion that that things need to change is of course an opinion.

Of course there are always people like you who will want to disarm the population. In this case, the first step some are proposing is banning the carry of firearms, followed later by a total ban for civilians. The banning of carrying a firearm, it says, can be done by a decree.

What remains to be seen is what steps are actually taken, if any at all.

 

[ju10prd]

Your opinion that that things need to change is of course an opinion.

Of course there are always people like you who will want to disarm the population. In this case, the first step some are proposing is banning the carry of firearms, followed later by a total ban for civilians. The banning of carrying a firearm, it says, can be done by a decree.

What remains to be seen is what steps are actually taken, if any at all.

The opinions just posted are those of Dominicans who will ultimately decide on this issue.

 

[windeguy]

The opinions just posted are those of Dominicans who will ultimately decide on this issue.

Indeed. While the opinions of those in charge of making those decisions will be what really matters.

 

[SKY]

Indeed. While the opinions of those in charge of making those decisions will be what really matters.

And you can bet high that these same people will still be carrying guns if everybody else cannot.