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bdablack

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Burn tires in Dr? That will accomplish nothing. I don't think any foreigner in their right mind would purchase property in DR, the whole system is to corrupt to invest in that country. But if Sosua was to be tuned into a nice ,safe, puta town that would be a boom for those who own business there, drug cartel or local Dominican(s) who own Sosua.
That is easy money; always a fresh supply of new girls needing financial assistance. Because of the peoples belief in procreation even if they don't have two pesos to rub together, always new fresh young faces. The women are beautiful and prostitution is legal and well entrenched in the society. Sousa is the perfect place to make cheap easy money; somebody has figured it out and is acting on it. Family vacation destination, hooey!
Drive out all the business or make them sell at a deep discount swoop up all the cheap assets and go back to business as usual with well paid police to protect the gringo/Canadians & foreigners. One hour away from Miami all the young puta you can pay for. Safely walk the street all hours of the day or night. Different putas all hours of the day or night. Someone has figured it out I tell ya!
 
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I think a bit of perspective might be helpful here.

For many years, Sosua has existed (and largely subsisted) on the monger and discount tourist trade. I imagine the powers-that-be didn't think Playa Dorada would ever be revived as a result of the "Jet Blue from NYC" crowd.

A few years ago, it was decided to start berthing cruise ships (the ones with 3-5,000 tourists each) just outside of POP. Unlike the rap star wannabes, these folks are viewed as having real money, and the idea of several ships visiting every week was, I'm sure, quite tantalizing.

POP has no practical beach. Cabarete and beyond are very nice, but a bit far for a tourist who only has a few hours ashore. Which of course leaves Sosua.

Problem is, the tour operators had all heard of the sex industry thing, and were avoiding Sosua like the plague. Until the government decided to do something about it.

The arrests and crackdowns were not subtle or low-profile. And this plan of "cleaning up" Sosua in the hopes of attracting more traditional tourism isn't some sort of far-fetched notion, as the port in Maimon is scheduled to start receiving ships within a year.

Will mongering continue? Of course, it's everywhere in the country. Will there be much stricter controls in place? You bet.

It's highly doubtful the atmosphere of years past will be tolerated once the ships arrive. And frankly, I don't think that's a bad thing. Watching a bunch of adolescent-minded NYC homies quite literally tear up the town, while creepy looking Europeans manhandle the women is not one of my favorite memories.
 
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DRob said:
The arrests and crackdowns were not subtle or low-profile. And this plan of "cleaning up" Sosua in the hopes of attracting more traditional tourism isn't some sort of far-fetched notion, as the port in Maimon is scheduled to start receiving ships within a year
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And what exactly would those tourists from cruise ships do in Sosua?
Sosua beaches are among the worst I have seen in the country. Town itself is very unremarkable. No cultural backdrop to talk about. Why would any of those tourists, " viewed as having real money" wanto to go to Sosua?
 
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As I mentioned, Sosua is about proximity.

The beach isn't all that bad, and will improve dramatically if/when they clean it up and add sand (just like they do at Waikiki Beach and the Cancun/Riviera Maya area.)

The town is only unremarkable from the perspective of a seasoned traveler. If you've never been out of Boise, it's quite pleasant, and will likely improve further over the years as PC continues its makeover.

I imagine soon there will be all sorts of additional attractions and events. Maybe not by next week, but I imagine Sosua will be markedly better in five years. You know, just like it's better today than it was five or six years ago.

When I say "real money," I mean the perception of a mass-cruise line patron on a family trip vs. a guy who plies the internet to see how much he can get away with paying the prostitutes a pittance.

If you were the Mayor/Senator/Governor/President, and you had to choose between the two groups of tourists, which would you pick?

Kind of moot point, I suppose. Obviously, that decision was reached a long time ago, and the cruisers won.
 
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Castle

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Fair enough, DRob. It still sounds kind of far fetched.
I do wish them the best of lucks on that project.
 
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drescape24

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Castle said:
Fair enough, DRob. It still sounds kind of far fetched.
I do wish them the best of lucks on that project.
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With all due respect Castle, how is choosing between mongers and multiple cruise ships per week far fetched? Sounds like a simple business desicion to be.
Also the powers to be should realize that the cruise ship tourist will have the day, but the mongers will still run the night. Both sides should realize that neither is tossing in the towel so how about coexistence.
 
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drescape24 said:
With all due respect Castle, how is choosing between mongers and multiple cruise ships per week far fetched? Sounds like a simple business desicion to be.
Also the powers to be should realize that the cruise ship tourist will have the day, but the mongers will still run the night. Both sides should realize that neither is tossing in the towel so how about coexistence.
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I didn't mean the decision was far fetched, I meant the project is.
Obvioulsy the decision must have been an easy one. Just as easy as I might decide to get a brand new Ferrari by the end of the year. However, I think we agree that it would be a far fetched project for me.

And I say making Sosua a cruise ship attraction is far fetched because there are very few relative advantages besides the distance factor DRob mentioned. Actually, Sosua is only 10-15 minutes away from Cabarete, and while I agree they both have pretty mediocre beaches, Cabarete should be by far a more attractive option for tourists, for many reasons.

I understand Sosua authorities are trying to avoid precisely that line of thinking, and I agree that they have every right to work on improving and cleaning up Sosua, I just think they are shooting a little too high given the current situation. Cruise ships? I think trying to get some local tourism first would be a more realistic project, and see how much they can work from that.
 
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ramesses

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DRob said:
Kind of moot point, I suppose. Obviously, that decision was reached a long time ago, and the cruisers won.
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It will change back after a couple of years as the cruisers start seeing Sosua compared to their other ports of call. The government knows this and is just pumping the place and lining their pockets in the mean time.

The "monger" crowd puts more into the economy than some people think. I, for example, have been visiting Sosua for 10 years now, I visited 3 to 4 times per year and spent $2500 to 3000 a trip. Most of the people I know have been doing the same, some more. This is not about what money is brought into the economy, it is about how much the politicians can skim off of the investment being put into this. After that....it will just disintegrate....the jungle will take over in a few short years.
 
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DRob

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Good points all around.

Cabarete has a prettier beach, but the waves are a bit rougher, so less ideal for non-swimmers. It's also stretched along one road, which could get pretty congested pretty fast. That said, it's still a better option today.

The "touristy" part of Sosua, OTOH, has several streets and blocks, a couple of park areas, kids playing beisbol, restaurants on cliffs, a helluva sunset, etc.

Without the negatives, it's actually got the makings of a really nice beach town. They host boxing there now, and I think they're in line for some music festivals as well. If they keep building on that, I imagine the powers that be may be thinking the cruisers who are only in town for 3 hours might consider returning for a longer vacation in the future.

Any way you look at it, if I'm the Mayor of Sosua, I don't want to lose a single peso to Cabarete or any other spot my town can compete against. And if that means I bust a few heads and then make my improvements, so be it.

In the U.S., government officials doing the EXACT SAME THING call it "Weed 'n Seed."
 
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No money on local tourism, especially Sosua beach.

Clear the beach, seal off the ends, let only a few businesses trade, make it private and make people pay to enter.
 
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Robert said:
No money on local tourism, especially Sosua beach.

Clear the beach, seal off the ends, let only a few businesses trade, make it private and make people pay to enter.
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Bite your bottom lip! ( just joking) If the locals know people will pay for.the beach they will do it. But then maybe I would go on Sundays! Hahaha
 
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Its time to cleans this awesome Caribbean island of its filth so it can enjoy its full potential. This island is filled with highly educated, morally sound ladies and gentlemen.
I would suggest they build a small artificial island slightly offshore of Montecristi. This island can house the castaways of society so the good folks can live in peace.
They have the right to raise their children in a peaceful environment free of drugs dealers, putas, street beggars, criminals, con artists, sankie pankies, most lawyers and corrupt politicians. This way the majority will be happy!
Actually after doing the math, maybe we should send the good folks to live on this artificial island and the remaining 9.9 million can continue to ply their trade with reckless abandon.... Long life the wild wild west!!!!
 
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ramesses

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Expat13 said:
They have the right to raise their children in a peaceful environment free of drugs dealers, putas, street beggars, criminals, con artists, sankie pankies, most lawyers and corrupt politicians. This way the majority will be happy!
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Funny thing is...they are only want to rid themselves of the putas...all the rest remain welcome.
 
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bdablack

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ramesses said:
POP has no practical beach. Cabarete and beyond are very nice, but a bit far for a tourist who only has a few hours ashore. Which of course leaves Sosua.
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POP has a very good stretch of beach from outside of the Lomar Hotel to the end of the Malecon traveling east. All it needs is for a tractor to rake it every morning and afternoon. The beach is filthy because it is neglected. If that stretch of beach is given some tlc, Sosua's beach would not have a chance. Additionally, the beach at the end of the Malecon is quite long and beautiful. Puerto Plata's beach(es) could rival any beach in DR if it was only given some care and attention.
 
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