Pedro Clisante at night is like a police state.

[badpiece33]

I think we will have to ask DR1's legal expert about that. I was pointing out that Lindsey said there is a new countrywide law to that effect.

so because you heard it from someone you just assumed it was true and posted as such????? way to go

 

[LindseyKaufman]

Lindsey, can you elaborate on this new LAW. This is the first I have heard of it actually being a law and not just a local decision.

Victor

Victor, I am no lawyer. I reported what I had been told. I specifically asked whether this is a country-wide law or a local decision. I was told it was throughout the DR and it was emphasized that it was new.

If this information is in error, I humbly apologize. Perhaps a lawyer can confirm for us.

I don't care to be in this line of fire. I am not expressing my own opinions. I will keep them to myself for now and await history to write the story one way or another. My only intention was to report back to you all.

Lindsey

 

[badpiece33]

Sosua has changed dramatically over the years. I was last there in the Summer and it left me with no desire to return. With the present clean up going on, I see another trip in the near future. What was once a tourist oriented area became a haven for drugs, hookers and other bothersome types.
I never had a problem with the CD girl. What bothered me most was the shoe vendor and wood statue guys that would always continue to stand there after having been told no. If they are gone, Sosua is better for it. The shoe shine boys now just ask for money, shinning shoes as a last resort. If I want a woman, I prefer to look in the usual places, hooker bars. It's disgusting to be accosted on the street.
For years there were essentially no drugs, now they're everywhere. It may be a result of the SUV drivers that all seem to carry guns. And it trickles down to the delivery conchos and the street kids. Clean up more is what I say. Develope some respect for the law and perhaps the new mayor is doing that.
Herman's on the corner of PC and Dr Rosen was a favorite people watching spot along with La Roca. Then came El Flow with the blaring noise that cannot be called music and ruined my spot. Add to that the tables and chairs on the sidewalk and it became more untenable. IMO the downward spiral of Sosua began at the opening of El Flow and became much worse after the earthquake in Haiti.
And then you have the men and women that fall in love with the dregs of society. The women crying about being used and taken advantage of by the sankies and the guys crying about the money they now must spend to avoid the paternity suit. Lay with dogs and get fleas.
When the number of guys coming down for the hookers is less, then Sosua will once again be what I looked for in the beginning. I will not miss the guys that can't get layed in their home country and feel they need to shout to the rooftops about their conquests. Sosua, years ago, was a charming little town that has most of what I wanted, a nice beach, cold beer, people to watch and interact with while on respite from work.
I like Ken2 and Camdentom's posts. People like catcherintherye was probably a misfit wherever he came from and doesn't like Sosua now. May he leave in peace.

Corinth the CD girl doesnt bother you but an old man selling wooden statues must be removed? As well as a few shoe shine kids??? You are a whore monger as you say yourself but you prefer to pay top dollar at an established location, you dont approve of freelancers. You think the German owned bar has more of a right to be on Pedro Clisante than a Dominican owned and a mostly Dominican clientel playing their countries music. If you dont want to see Dominicans or listen to their music I suggest you travel to Munich or somewhere else. Sosua has always been the way it is more or less, most of the activity was on the Charamicos side before but the Govt killed that side of town so look at it now. Batey will look like Charamicos in a short time if things dont change fast.

 

[badpiece33]

It's their country and the powers that be will enforce whatever they feel is right or on their agenda, despite how ridiculous or short sighted it may look to "outsiders". They couldn't careless about mothers that need milk and pampers, tourists that come to get laid or businesses that cater to that market.

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This is why I tell everyone Rent dont buy!!! I can pull up my tent and move on anytime,some of you guys will be stuck with this crap and your property values falling off the cliff.

 

[NY-DR Commuter]

Victor, I am no lawyer. I reported what I had been told. I specifically asked whether this is a country-wide law or a local decision. I was told it was throughout the DR and it was emphasized that it was new.

If this information is in error, I humbly apologize. Perhaps a lawyer can confirm for us.

I don't care to be in this line of fire. I am not expressing my own opinions. I will keep them to myself for now and await history to write the story one way or another. My only intention was to report back to you all.

Lindsey

Lindsey, please don't take what I asked as an indictment of your post. If I would have been able to attend the meeting at Sea Horse I definitely would have, but I just found out about it too late. And I absoultely appreciate the fact that you told us what you saw and heard at the meeting. I was just curious as to who told you it was an actual national law and not just a local decision. I've been living in Sosua for a long time and have seen quite a lot over the years but this time things are happening a little differently.

Victor

 

[corinth]

Corinth the CD girl doesnt bother you but an old man selling wooden statues must be removed? As well as a few shoe shine kids??? You are a whore monger as you say yourself but you prefer to pay top dollar at an established location, you dont approve of freelancers. You think the German owned bar has more of a right to be on Pedro Clisante than a Dominican owned and a mostly Dominican clientel playing their countries music. If you dont want to see Dominicans or listen to their music I suggest you travel to Munich or somewhere else. Sosua has always been the way it is more or less, most of the activity was on the Charamicos side before but the Govt killed that side of town so look at it now. Batey will look like Charamicos in a short time if things dont change fast.

People that bother me and continue to stand there while I'm eating is what bothers me.
Your opinion differs from mine. I do not consider myself a whore monger as you put it. I have sampled the wares at times but on my terms. I would never make a special trip anywhere to get layed.
Herman's bar didn't blare noise, El Flow did the last I was there. That's what I wrote.
I have no need of dr badpieces advice.
You are a legend of sorts, hit any women lately?

 

[greydread]

People that bother me and continue to stand there while I'm eating is what bothers me.
Your opinion differs from mine. I do not consider myself a whore monger as you put it. I have sampled the wares at times but on my terms. I would never make a special trip anywhere to get layed.
Herman's bar didn't blare noise, El Flow did the last I was there. That's what I wrote.
I have no need of dr badpieces advice.
You are a legend of sorts, hit any women lately?

Oh! Yeah! That makes all the difference in the World!

As soon as my 1st wife with the BA degree told my 20 y/o (GI with a GED) dumbass that she had "no plans to work for a living" it occurred to me that I might be one.

Puh-leeease!

 

[Tamborista]

Oh! Yeah! That makes all the difference in the World!

As soon as my 1st wife with the BA degree told my 20 y/o (GI with a GED) dumbass that she had "no plans to work for a living" it occurred to me that I might be one.

Puh-leeease!

We prefer the term hobbyist mon.:bunny:

 

[Camden Tom]

Camden Tom, I don't see where I mentioned Ken's name in the post of mine you quoted. When I want to address Ken's posts, I do so directly, as I did in my post #94.

In the post you quoted, I was presenting a case against a generalized idea, which Ken happens to agree with. Attacking an idea is much different than attacking an individual, and I will continue to do just that.

Oh really??? So, the following quote (#47) which appeared immediately after Ken's post, was not directed at Ken?

catcherintherye
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Here come the clowns.

Man up Catcher and grow a pair.

 

[AlaninDR]

Oh really??? So, the following quote (#47) which appeared immediately after Ken's post, was not directed at Ken?

Man up Catcher and grow a pair.

He awaits instructions from the inner circle on what to say and think.

 

[DonDR]

DonDR,

Suprise me, who do you think will be buying land and properties in a dying ghost town. And what does simvolic price mean???

If you are in total control of the situation in the town you know what your plans for the future - you make the price on the land in the ghost town go down and then buy it at the simbolic price (very close to "0"). Next thing - you opent new bars and clubs at the same places - only they will belong to other people (team of new Mayor). They came for 8 years and they have to take all advantage of their position in town .... The history of busness shows us such examples of using information (the Mayor plans everything and knows what will be next), power (the Mayor has the right to do everything that is needed to achive the goal) and money.

 

[Robert]

If you are in total control of the situation in the town you know what your plans for the future - you make the price on the land in the ghost town go down and then buy it at the simbolic price (very close to "0"). Next thing - you opent new bars and clubs at the same places - only they will belong to other people (team of new Mayor). They came for 8 years and they have to take all advantage of their position in town .... The history of busness shows us such examples of using information (the Mayor plans everything and knows what will be next), power (the Mayor has the right to do everything that is needed to achive the goal) and money.

It would not surprise me if it played out like that.

 

[rsg]

People that bother me and continue to stand there while I'm eating is what bothers me.
Your opinion differs from mine. I do not consider myself a whore monger as you put it. I have sampled the wares at times but on my terms. I would never make a special trip anywhere to get layed.
Herman's bar didn't blare noise, El Flow did the last I was there. That's what I wrote.
I have no need of dr badpieces advice.
You are a legend of sorts, hit any women lately?

How do you spell HYPOCRITE? corinthgre:...Oh I see Romeo, other guys pay for sex in Sosua because they cant get any in thier home country,but only a true stud, and legend in your own mind, phrase your payng for sex as sampled the wares..Paying for sex is paying for sex, no matter what you may think in your twisted thoughts..

 

[rsg]

If you are in total control of the situation in the town you know what your plans for the future - you make the price on the land in the ghost town go down and then buy it at the simbolic price (very close to "0"). Next thing - you opent new bars and clubs at the same places - only they will belong to other people (team of new Mayor). They came for 8 years and they have to take all advantage of their position in town .... The history of busness shows us such examples of using information (the Mayor plans everything and knows what will be next), power (the Mayor has the right to do everything that is needed to achive the goal) and money.

EXACTLY!!! In one way or another, this is the plan....

Just think about it for a minute. Do you really think Big Willy is going to put his own business out of business? NO!!!! He knows what the master plan is, and will wait for the big payoff in the future..His place cant keep up with Clasicos, so he has nothing to lose in this charade that is going on.

It's sort of funny..Some people leave the Dominican Mayors job's and are happy with a little bar and restaurant when they leave office, But this chica wants the whole town..

 

[catcherintherye]

Camdam Tom, you really are making something out of nothing. I'll "man up" as you call it. You are an idiot. Do you understand that? It is directed straight at you , with no hesitation.

Neither one of the two posts you are so concerned about refer to Ken. If you choose to associate those posts with Ken, be my guest, but that won't change the facts, and you will still be an idiot.

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I will leave this post up and allow only Tom to respond if he so wishes.

For those of you that know Tom, I don't need to say anything.
For those of you that don't, he's a stand up guy, very well liked in Sosua/Cabarete and far from an idiot.

Let this be a lesson to others. If you're going to call someone an idiot on the board, better off doing it in private, or you might just end up looking like... well, need I say more...

 

[PeterInBrat]

A little coruption can go a long way in a small town...

 

[NALs]

95% of Dominicans consider Sosua to be a crap hole and they avoid it.

Not consider, it is! irate:

Hopefully the town will become once again a nice place for people.

 

[Eddy]

95% of Dominicans consider Sosua to be a crap hole and they avoid it.
...

Tell them there are a lot of people disguised as Dominicans with big jeepetas coming here every holiday weekend.

 

[aarhus]

So they clean up one place then it increases in Cabarete or Bavaro. Then they have to clean up there and where does that end. Smart move.

 

[jrhartley]

Hopefully the town will become once again a nice place for people.

actually it is ...if you took the time to actually come here, instead of believing everything you read


it was packed tonight,perhaps everyone came to see how quiet it was