Sosua Beach Unions Want More Involvement

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RDKNIGHT

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I am really from NY from birth to age 48, but know little of NY City. I hardly ever went there. Never heard of Hunts Point.

So , did the Sosua Beach Unions really get more involvement and now that is settled and they can squat on private land forever?
I have no idea .. I live in the east aka punta cana... what part of new york .. I grew up in nyc
 

windeguy

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I have no idea .. I live in the east aka punta cana... what part of new york .. I grew up in nyc
30 miles west of Albany, off Thruway exit 27, which I think is 173 miles to the NY City area. A small city officially called Amsterdam, which I call Amsterdamned and others call AmsteRico. It was a great place to grow up and sucks big time now. Last time I was there, I was filling up at Stewarts before driving down for a flight out of JFK to POP and the guy next to me was from the DR. I don't think he had anything to do with the Sosua Beach unions and their ability to stay as squatters forever. But let us see if anything transpires.
 

El Hijo de Manolo

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HP back in the day , when you could literally get caught with Cocaine and a Hooker, after getting into an Accident , and u could bribe the Cop to walk away from it all ( true story) ... lmao ... yeagh , Sosua is a LOT like that or was .
Back in the day was 80s then because Giuliani cleaned alot of that up in the early to mid 90s of course along with the festering sore that was Times Square
 

RDKNIGHT

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HP back in the day , when you could literally get caught with Cocaine and a Hooker, after getting into an Accident , and u could bribe the Cop to walk away from it all ( true story) ... lmao ... yeagh , Sosua is a LOT like that or was .
that was you?
 
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I don't see where I insulted you, but please accept my apology.
Apology accepted.
Are you the same guy who is screaming property rights, but feel that owners who AirBnB their property are messing things up?
Sounds like shilling for big developers and hating on the little guy (offense intended).
When you write a response to my post, you are responding directly to me and me alone.
When I write a sweeping statement about everyone, only those who see themselves in my statement take issue.
I'm not over simplifying anything, but it's just that simple. It's about private property rights. The beach vendors don't own the land they built on. Nobody is vilifying them, but they don't have a lot of rights in this case except to be treated decently.
And yes you are over simplifying. Because you choose to focus on property rights without looking at the overall picture.
This is not a court of law. This is real life.
So lets take a look at what the government is doing.
Clearing out the beach venders after (how many years)?
For what purpose?
Is that purpose in the interest of the public?
Sosua beach is a public beach.
Looks to me like the government is using it weight to make things pretty for another big developer.
So using the power of the government
To improve a public asset.
To make it more palatable for development for the owners of the private property.
Completely legal.
Who benefits from that?
Scream property rights all you want.

Yes you will win in a court of law.
But, this is the court of DR1 opinion.
No way for you to win here. LOL!
 

ctrob

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Is that purpose in the interest of the public?

Of course it is. The huge amount of raw sewage being dumped into that sand and flowing into the bay everyday, should have been addressed decades ago.

Yes you will win in a court of law.
But, this is the court of DR1 opinion.
No way for you to win here. LOL!

I don't need to win anything. Just stating facts, because I know them. Do you let people camp out and take dumps on your front yard? No, I'm sure you don't. And you can't be forced to allow it either.

You talk about the "little guy" getting screwed by big corp. You don't even know who the little guy is in this case. It's the Dominican land owner. He's the guy who's worked his tail off and maintained that property for the last 40 years. Now he's able to finally cut a profitable deal for his family. Good for him.
 
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Of course it is. The huge amount of raw sewage being dumped into that sand and flowing into the bay everyday, should have been addressed decades ago.
So, the government now needs to address this issue on behalf of whom again?
You have the facts right, care to share them here?
I don't need to win anything. Just stating facts, because I know them.
What are the facts?
Have you stated them?
Property owners that AirBnB their properties have rights also. And yet you are very comfortable stating that their rights should be interfered with . Something that you have ignored even though I have pointed out to you twice.
Do you let people camp out and take dumps on your front yard? No, I'm sure you don't. And you can't be forced to allow it either.
And how long have the people been there?
And how long has the poor "Dominican Land Owner that has worked his butt off all his life" had to enforce his property rights claim?
Why now and not before?
Value of the land and developers wanting to make something out of it now?
You talk about the "little guy" getting screwed by big corp. You don't even know who the little guy is in this case. It's the Dominican land owner. He's the guy who's worked his tail off and maintained that property for the last 40 years. Now he's able to finally cut a profitable deal for his family. Good for him.
40 years, he maintained a property while allowing others to use it without any benefit to himself?
Your statement presented as fact makes absolutely no sense. And there is nothing else you have presented here to back it up.
And if you don't like people disagreeing with you, don't post in an opinion forum.

Fact: a thing that is known or proved to be true; the truth about events as opposed to interpretation.
 
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Do you let people camp out and take dumps on your front yard?
No.
No, I'm sure you don't.
You are correct
And you can't be forced to allow it either.
You are right again my man.
You are batting 1000 percent.

The reason that they can't is not due to property rights.

But the real reason is that I have a fence.
And I have security.
So if you wish to dump someplace other than here in DR1...
You can feel free to hop my fence.
And see what type greeting you get.
LOL!
 

windeguy

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Apology accepted.
Are you the same guy who is screaming property rights, but feel that owners who AirBnB their property are messing things up?
Sounds like shilling for big developers and hating on the little guy (offense intended).
When you write a response to my post, you are responding directly to me and me alone.
When I write a sweeping statement about everyone, only those who see themselves in my statement take issue.

And yes you are over simplifying. Because you choose to focus on property rights without looking at the overall picture.
This is not a court of law. This is real life.
So lets take a look at what the government is doing.
Clearing out the beach venders after (how many years)?
Why does that matter if they are on someone else's land?
For what purpose?
Is that purpose in the interest of the public?
Private land should be of public interest? Why exactly?
Sosua beach is a public beach.
True, as are all beaches in the DR. People own land behind many beaches in the DR.
Looks to me like the government is using it weight to make things pretty for another big developer.
So using the power of the government
To improve a public asset.
To make it more palatable for development for the owners of the private property.
Completely legal.
Who benefits from that?
Scream property rights all you want.
Private property is what it is. No need to scream it.
Yes you will win in a court of law.
But, this is the court of DR1 opinion.
No way for you to win here. LOL!
I thought the truck was running around Sosua blaring all was good and all vendors could stay as is?
 

CristoRey

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Knowing what I know about this country it would be foolish to believe just because someone drove around with a truck for a few hours blaring the loud horns telling people not to worry...
there is nothing to worry about? Laughable.
Where's my popcorn.
 

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Knowing what I know about this country it would be foolish to believe just because someone drove around with a truck for a few hours blaring the loud horns telling people not to worry...
there is nothing to worry about? Laughable.
Where's my popcorn.

Tambo says that Dude with the Bar and all the Videos is a Businessman, who knows his isht .. ?

Personally I do not have an Axe to grind with the Man, and he seems like a very nice Guy to hang with , and probably a really good dude who gives back to the community ..
but that said , I can not believe how Delusional Sosua Bar/ Business Owners are , especially after ALL the happenings on Pedro C a short while ago , where LEGIT Businesses were CLOSED for BULL ISHT Reasons and even Set up some of them were , and some of those Business People who owned them literally kicked out of Town ..

Its mind boggling to now think that this Land Ownership thing is not for Real .
What the Chica Bars on PC faced back then , is NOTHING compared to what is coming for these Beach Bar Owners/ Squatters .
They just dont want to believe it .

Get the Popcorn, yes. but I do feel bad for these People who have worked so hard , and especially for their Employees ,but that does not change the fact that they are not thinking clearly .
 

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I have a hard time having sympathy for anyone who buys, rents, or leases a building/business on the beach without verifying who owns the underlying land. I mean, just how stupid can you be?
 

Tamborista

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Tambo says that Dude with the Bar and all the Videos is a Businessman, who knows his isht .. ?

Personally I do not have an Axe to grind with the Man, and he seems like a very nice Guy to hang with , and probably a really good dude who gives back to the community ..
but that said , I can not believe how Delusional Sosua Bar/ Business Owners are , especially after ALL the happenings on Pedro C a short while ago , where LEGIT Businesses were CLOSED for BULL ISHT Reasons and even Set up some of them were , and some of those Business People who owned them literally kicked out of Town ..

Its mind boggling to now think that this Land Ownership thing is not for Real .
What the Chica Bars on PC faced back then , is NOTHING compared to what is coming for these Beach Bar Owners/ Squatters .
They just dont want to believe it .

Get the Popcorn, yes. but I do feel bad for these People who have worked so hard , and especially for their Employees ,but that does not change the fact that they are not thinking clearly .
DUDE, what's up with you?

I have concluded that EVERY expat in Sosua is either a deportee or an ex-con, present company included.
I can name 10 off the top of my head that ran a business, whether it is a fishing charter, a property management company, or a BBQ pit, ALL scum of the Earth criminals, there you have it, post on.

PS: The DIESEL excavators are coming, John Deere or CAT, NO spark plugs!
No spark plugs, no more bars, no more velvet Elvis paintings, all going away.
No more KAYSO, KAYSO, Beach Chair, Beach Chair, JOHNEE KAYKAY.
 

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DUDE, what's up with you?

I have concluded that EVERY expat in Sosua is either a deportee or an ex-con, present company included.
I can name 10 off the top of my head that ran a business, whether it is a fishing charter, a property management company, or a BBQ pit, ALL scum of the Earth criminals, there you have it, post on.

PS: The DIESEL excavators are coming, John Deere or CAT, NO spark plugs!
No spark plugs, no more bars, no more velvet Elvis paintings, all going away.
No more KAYSO, KAYSO, Beach Chair, Beach Chair, JOHNEE KAYKAY.
The sin biz ain't run by saints

Adding, i personally can't wait til it's all gone so we can close this thread and maybe get another Edenorte one started.
 
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