Regarding education the country would benefit from more gifted education programs; grouping those who want to and have the capacity to learn as it's clear a number of students along with their parents simply do not give a f***. Separate the good ones from the bad ones.
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What country will the DR be similar to?
I think everyone on the forum agrees education is a huge problem. I chatted with a former poster. She suggested the DR will become more similar to PR. Because politically the US will not let it become like Venezuela or El Salvador. And the US influence is so strong now and tourism so developed. Sounds plausible to me. I see it as good and bad. More stable because of the US influence but the lack of education limiting it to be just a tourist destination.
Well said.I believe the sad state of the education system-- public and private alike-- is not a bug in the code, but a feature. It is embedded , and they only way out is a great eduation system. Where we are there are not enough classrooms or teachers I guess but money for a wall around the school
I am not an expert but there is going to be a new generation of tic toc graduates. The system is designed to make people unproductive ie making them wait for a day to have a meeting in the bank. endless school meetings that parents need to go to that could be done on a simple whatsapp message. ANythig that could be done to help people being more productive would help.
Yeah the Tic Toc, Instagram and SnapChat generation. They became experts during lockdown.
Yes.
Alex, I'll take "Never Gonna Happen" for 400 please.
Lucifer made some good points.
The biggest problem this country has is their constant
willingness to forgo just about anything that matters
(dignity, self-respect, character, hard work, personal responsibility)
for a short-term gain. This way of thinking/ acting is pervasive
in every aspect of (modern day) Dominican culture and I do not
seeing it changing anytime soon.
what better way too than give all the children tablets. How about books?
I could offer US$100.00 to any of my family members or friends in Higüey right now or US$200.00 for next Tuesday, and ALL will opt for today's offering.
<<No, Joseíto, dame los cien hoy, que con eso yo resuelvo>>.
<<No, Joseíto, dame los cien hoy, que con eso yo resuelvo>>.
Cuba has a very good educational system. Bring en masse the Cubans while the DR’s system is fixed. Afterall, a good education automatically equals first world status. Just look at Cuba for evidence.
That Cuba is not as capitalist as the DR?
Ok, I think most DR1ers would agree that Colombia has a better educated population than the DR. Bring the Colombians, after all Colombia is a first world country because of that.
Why is it that only three countries in Latin America has been closing the gap with developed countries while the rest of the region remains the same or see an increasing gap? Chile, Panama, and the DR are those three countries.
Something isn’t adding up.
That Cuba is not as capitalist as the DR?
Ok, I think most DR1ers would agree that Colombia has a better educated population than the DR. Bring the Colombians, after all Colombia is a first world country because of that.
Why is it that only three countries in Latin America has been closing the gap with developed countries while the rest of the region remains the same or see an increasing gap? Chile, Panama, and the DR are those three countries.
Something isn’t adding up.
Colombia's education system is better than the DR but still sucks. I know because I have a 12 year old daughter that goes to school there.
The DR closing the gap with developed countries? I don’t know about the others you mention but I am not seeing it here.
That video is 10+ years old.
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So, if i am reading it correctly, the DR outperforms the world, by a couple of % points yearly.
However if the end goal is to catch up with the " industrial world " ( per the lady in the video ), well it will take a couple of centuries 🙄🙄 .
By comparison, take a look at how China caught up with the rest of the world.
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Constant triple or quadruple the world growth % over decades.
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And during that time the DR outperforms most fountries in Latin America and is the country that converges the most in the region.
That's because you are not an economist.
Overall, the DR is actually richer than China. They do have something called size and in fact, the same could be said of most Latin American countries. For example, Colombia is much bigger than the DR in population and land area. Go to Bogotá, to pick one place, and the entire northern part of the city is more developed than the DR. Yet, the entire DR fits in Bogotá and surrounding areas. Same with other Colombian cities such as Medellín. Overall, Colombia is a poorer country than the DR and that's a recent change since historically it was above it.
There are other aspects that aren't as apparent at first. Let's take cars as an example. Anyone in SD comparing to Bogotá would agree that overall the latter looks newer than the former. Plus, due to stronger regulation you hardly (if ever) will see a beat up car roaming the streets of Bogotá, but you do in Santo Domingo thanks in no small part to the conchos. However, there is a detail that becomes apparent after you know how cars are in Colombia in general. Colombian streets are filled with cars produced in South America, some in Colombia itself. Except for luxury brands such as Lexus or Mercedes Benz, the typical car in Colombia has a lower safety, less gadgets, and overall are more uncomfortable than the typical car roming in SD. Bogotá is filled with manual transmission vehicles, much less in Santo Domingo. The typical car roaming the streets of SD for the most part were American vehicles that were imported as used cars and then sold in the DR, something that basically doesn't happen in Colombia. Dominican cars were built to US standards of safety, even the simplest has more gadgets than a typical new one in Colombia, and the average Dominican with a car has a more comfortable one than in Colombia, even if it's the same make, model, and year. Simply put, Dominicans with vehicles have an overall better car than Colombians with vehicles, even if Colombian vehicles seem newer and sinier than Dominican ones. The average Dominican isn't aware of this, but Dominicans with cars are used to a level of comfort, gadgets, and safety that most Latin Americans with cars simply don't. This is not something apparent at first and it would seem to the naked eye that Colombians (in reality Latin Americans in general) are doing better in cars vs Dominican ones, yet in reality the opposite is true. The average Latin American simply can't afford a new vehicle with the same level of safety, gadgets, and comfort as the average Dominican with a car despite most are used when first bought in the DR.
Then there are other things that Colombians do notice once in the DR vs in Colombia. That is that you can be in Bogotá or Medellín or elsewhere and see certain type of vehicles mostly in the wealthier part of those cities, particularly SUV's. Yet, in the DR even in the barrios there are plenty of people with the type of cars that in Colombia would never be seen in their barrio equivalence. Lets not even touch the whole SUV thing. Dominican barrios simply have more SUV owners than barrios in Colombia. That's also due to what was said in the previous paragraph, but all in all Dominicans are riding in better vehicles than Colombians or Latin Americans in general.
If you want to do the experiment, sit in a vehicle make, model, and year for the US market ready for Dominican streets and then sit in the same make, model, and year in say Colombia. The difference is obvious as soon that you sit in it, despite on the outside they may look exactly the same. Only the rich of Latin America ride in vehicles with the level of comfort and safety as typical middle class and even many "poor" Dominicans do.
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Although I wish this were not the case, I would have to disagree with you.
PISA 2018 Worldwide Ranking - average score of mathematics, science and reading - FactsMaps
Source: Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), 2018-2019 The Program for International Student Assessment (PISA) is a worldwide study by OECD in nearly 80 nations of 15-year-old students’ scholastic...Read more
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And it's possible that in a few years Estonia will lead in at least one of the PISA categories.
Estonia, with a GDP per capita of just barely above US$3000 after the collapse of the USSR, shatters the Dom. Republic's numbers to smithereens. Estonia's GDP per capita today (40K) surpasses Spain's GDP and all the Latin American countries.
It's the Education Nation, and the D.R. could learn a thing or two from them, but our politicians are more preoccupied with passing a law that designates a particular day to celebrate baseball players - El día de los peloteros. Seriously, folks.
Mother: <<Juanito, carajo, ya e' hora de que te levante - va a llegá' taLde a la e'cuela>>.
Mother: <<JUAN PABLO GUERRERO Y E'PIRITU SANTO, E'TA E' LA ÚLTIMA VEZ QUE TE VOY A PEDÍ QUE TE LEVANTE DE ESA CAMA>>.
Juanito: <<No, mamá, hoy no hay clase. Hoy e' día de lo' pelotero'>>.
Estonia, with a GDP per capita of just barely above US$3000 after the collapse of the USSR, shatters the Dom. Republic's numbers to smithereens. Estonia's GDP per capita today (40K) surpasses Spain's GDP and all the Latin American countries.
It's the Education Nation, and the D.R. could learn a thing or two from them, but our politicians are more preoccupied with passing a law that designates a particular day to celebrate baseball players - El día de los peloteros. Seriously, folks.
Mother: <<Juanito, carajo, ya e' hora de que te levante - va a llegá' taLde a la e'cuela>>.
Mother: <<JUAN PABLO GUERRERO Y E'PIRITU SANTO, E'TA E' LA ÚLTIMA VEZ QUE TE VOY A PEDÍ QUE TE LEVANTE DE ESA CAMA>>.
Juanito: <<No, mamá, hoy no hay clase. Hoy e' día de lo' pelotero'>>.
Estonia learned from the Finns, with whom they are linguistically related. I have been there twice, very nice people. https://www.bbc.com/news/education-50590581
You have been there twice. Nice Bob! Does this have to do with the point you are making re education?